parsifal
Colonel
Im a New South Welshman and Im Australian. You can call me either whatever you like. Just don't call me British
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as if no Scots ever opposed of fought against American independence.
That's OK Chris we all have our foibles, all in all you're a decent, likable, person anywayMike, I guess you can tell I'm a Churchill fan. You should try reading William Manchester's tome, "The Last Lion". I found it a very balanced account of his life.
The Scots just had a lucky escape. I've just been in Norway and seen first hand the results of the collapse in oil prices there. One colleague was bemoaning the loss of nearly 3,000 oil industry related jobs in Stavanger and Rogaland.
Cheers
Steve
Churchill and Dowding the C in C of Fighter Command had an informal after dinner discussion during the Battle Of Britain about shooting pilots who had baled out of their aircraft, Dowding took the view that it was wrong to shoot pilots when over our territory when they would be taken prisoner, but that it was OK to shoot them if they were over their own territory and could soon return to combat duty, Churchill was horrified, he took the view that it was morally wrong to shoot them at any point.I really think its not constructive to go over myths (my terminology) about men shot in the water, men shot in parachutes, etc. It was war and sometimes these things happened. But I've never been able to find anything in the form of an order from the Allies condoning these type of actions. The closest was Churchill who stated that the only way to beat the Axis was unrestricted warfare.
I agree that warfare is about winning and any tactic that wins is accepted.
Lusitania is also propaganda so trying to split the truth and the fiction is hard work.
I do agree that Churchill was no angel and like all historical figures can be equally saint or sinner.
I didn't know that he wad submarine commander, what a talent he had.This is a myth, Churchill had very little to do with sinking of the Lusitania. The sinking and its consequences were mostly due to the fight within the German High Command about the war and the role of the submarine force in it, on whether it was enough to sink British merchant ships or to sink any and all merchant shipping that could help Britain. The hardcore German side (Tirpitz and the Navy) didn't care if this brought the US into the war, because they thought the war would be over by then if they succeeded in defeating the British. The moderate German side (Chancellor Bethmann-Hollweg and the Kaiser himself) were defeated and the rest is history.