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cheddar cheese
Major General
I believe you are talking of the Junkers Ju-287, a weird looking plane to say the least.
And I dont know why I forgot this one but it is another just truely beautiful plane. The Gotha Ho-229.
Origin: Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG. to Horten design (see note below)
Type: Single seat fighter/bomber
Engines:
Two Junkers Jumo 004B turbojets
Thrust: 1,980lb (900kg)
Dimensions:
Span 16.75m
Length 7.47m
Height 2.80m
Weights:
Empty: 10,140lbs (4600kg)
Max. loaded: 19,840lb (9000kg)
Speed:
607mph (977km/h)
Ceiling:
52,500ft (16,000m)
Range:
1,970 miles (3170km) at 393mph (635km/h) with two drop tanks
Armaments: Planned
Four Mk 103 or Mk 108 cannon
Plus
Two 1,000kg bombs
Comments:
First flown in January 1945, the Ho 229 was the innovative design of Walter and Reimar Horten, both former Luftwaffe officers. The test programme showed the 229 to have outstanding speed and handling characteristics but developement was halted when US troops overran the research facility. Some dispute has arisen over whether the 229 should be classified as the Go 229 or Ho 229. Since Gothar was supposed to build 229 and didn't really design it, I'm arbitrarily going with the Ho 229 designation in honor of the designers.
Origin: Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG. to Horten design (see note below)
Type: Single seat fighter/bomber
Engines:
Two Junkers Jumo 004B turbojets
Thrust: 1,980lb (900kg)
Dimensions:
Span 16.75m
Length 7.47m
Height 2.80m
Weights:
Empty: 10,140lbs (4600kg)
Max. loaded: 19,840lb (9000kg)
Speed:
607mph (977km/h)
Ceiling:
52,500ft (16,000m)
Range:
1,970 miles (3170km) at 393mph (635km/h) with two drop tanks
Armaments: Planned
Four Mk 103 or Mk 108 cannon
Plus
Two 1,000kg bombs
Comments:
First flown in January 1945, the Ho 229 was the innovative design of Walter and Reimar Horten, both former Luftwaffe officers. The test programme showed the 229 to have outstanding speed and handling characteristics but developement was halted when US troops overran the research facility. Some dispute has arisen over whether the 229 should be classified as the Go 229 or Ho 229. Since Gothar was supposed to build 229 and didn't really design it, I'm arbitrarily going with the Ho 229 designation in honor of the designers.
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cheddar cheese
Major General
If the German had got that thing flying we would have been screwed...
*Prediction of the lancs next post*
"Yeah but they wouldn't have had the fuel to use it....................."
Or something along those lines
*Prediction of the lancs next post*
"Yeah but they wouldn't have had the fuel to use it....................."
Or something along those lines
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cheddar cheese
Major General
Wow, great pics, I didnt know any actually survived 
NightHawk
Senior Airman
Now thet is realy butyfull, Why dont they rebuild it ????
But if you look at many of the blue prints of "secret future planes"(of WW2) you realize most of them are not practicle.
But if you look at many of the blue prints of "secret future planes"(of WW2) you realize most of them are not practicle.
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cheddar cheese
Major General
It would be bad to rebuild it in my eyes. If that is the only survivor it should be kept as it is. If there is another one however, then it should be rebuilt
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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but even that it was one hell of a plane it'd still need at least several months of combat to sort out any problems...............
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cheddar cheese
Major General
There we go, what did I say...
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
Actually, it's in the Smithsonian, in storage...
I believe they started restoration a while ago - not sure...
In the 1980s, Northrop actually visited them to study the aircraft for use on the B-2...
I believe they started restoration a while ago - not sure...
In the 1980s, Northrop actually visited them to study the aircraft for use on the B-2...
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
That is interesting. Next time I visit the Smithsonian I will have to check it out. If anyone ever visits Germany, they must got to Muenchen und check out the Deutsches Museum. They have quite an impressive WW2 aircraft display including V-1 and V-2 Rockets and other X-planes. Another good one in Germany is the Sinsheim Museum with many great aircraft to see and some of them you can actually climb into.
NightHawk
Senior Airman
A flying 1 is better then a rusting 1.cheddar cheese said:It would be bad to rebuild it in my eyes. If that is the only survivor it should be kept as it is. If there is another one however, then it should be rebuilt
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cheddar cheese
Major General
But theres more sense of history when its in its decrepid state. And anyway, The Go-229 never made it to full scale production, no-one reslly knows if its going to fly alright.
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
It does.
It flew many times, and crashed occasionally, but otherwise, it was one of the most docile aircraft around, as it had a VERY low stall speed...
It flew many times, and crashed occasionally, but otherwise, it was one of the most docile aircraft around, as it had a VERY low stall speed...
I believe it could have been possibly the greatest achievment for the Germans. It even influenced many aircraft used today.
Well when I say it could have, that is if it had entered full production.
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cheddar cheese
Major General
GermansRGeniuses said:
Wow, I thought like one or two were made and then it was scrapped...
Yeah they did build a few prototypes however it never reached production status.
