XB-70 valkyrie vs B-1B lancer

[special ed]

Well, maybe an XFM-1 Airacuda.

 

[swampyankee]

always have it on standby as a nuclear derent

The most effective nuclear deterrence is launched from a platform with an RCS of zero and a max speed of about M=0.01

 

[VA5124]

The most effective nuclear deterrence is launched from a platform with an RCS of zero and a max speed of about M=0.01

what kind of plane is that

 

[FLYBOYJ]

what kind of plane is that

 

[VA5124]

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thats a missle

 

[FLYBOYJ]

thats a missle

Exactly

 

[SaparotRob]

Off thread, but is punctuation not a thing anymore?

 

[VA5124]

Exactly

ill take my bomber instead

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

thats a missle

Now that we have established that, do you understand that it is more of nuclear deterrent than your B-70 ever was?

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Off thread, but is punctuation not a thing anymore?

I guess it's up there with writing in script

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

ill take my bomber instead

Good thing you do not make defense policy and doctrine.

 

[VA5124]

Good thing you do not make defense policy and doctrine.

misslles do no good if the grid is down and you cant lauch them

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

misslles do no good if the grid is down and you cant lauch them

Huh?

What Hollywood movies are you watching or video games are you playing?

 

[swampyankee]

what kind of plane is that

SLBMs launched by a submarine, like SSBN740, USS Rhode Island.USS Rhode Island (SSBN-740) - Wikipedia

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

maybe but i want a supersonic bomber in sercive

I'd rather have stealthy loiter capability. Supersonic burns fuel like a mad dog, and the speed requirement minimizes ammo as even with internal weapons you must balance payload against fuel, space-wise.

When you couple subsonic stealth heavy-bombers with a radar-suppressive strike package, you get a long-range bomber that carries a lot of PGMs, can hang out to look for trouble, and deliver munitions with incredible accuracy.

And yeah, deterrence is best handled by SSBNs.

 

[VA5124]

I'd rather have stealthy loiter capability. Supersonic burns fuel like a mad dog, and the speed requirement minimizes ammo as even with internal weapons you must balance payload against fuel, space-wise.

When you couple subsonic stealth heavy-bombers with a radar-suppressive strike package, you get a long-range bomber that carries a lot of PGMs, can hang out to look for trouble, and deliver munitions with incredible accuracy.

And yeah, deterrence is best handled by SSBNs.

ill agree to disagree i still hold true to my idea

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

ill agree to disagree i still hold true to my idea

All good and well, but the marketplace doesn't seem to agree, and I'm not talking the thread here, but air forces. There are maybe five who could produce something like that now (US, Russia, China, UK, and France), but none of them see fit to. Wonder why? That old bugbear, the cost-benefit analysis.

I get where you're coming from, I really do. One of my favorite prop planes nowadays is the XF-12. I love it because it had great performance for its era and simply looks beautiful. However, like the XB-70, it was the last of its line precisely because it was supplanted by better equipment, or in the case of the XB-70, stuff with a better cost-benefit analysis

 

[VA5124]

All good and well, but the marketplace doesn't seem to agree, and I'm not talking the thread here, but air forces. There are maybe five who could produce something like that now (US, Russia, China, UK, and France), but none of them see fit to. Wonder why? That old bugbear, the cost-benefit analysis.

I get where you're coming from, I really do. One of my favorite prop planes nowadays is the XF-12. I love it because it had great performance for its era and simply looks beautiful. However, like the XB-70, it was the last of its line precisely because it was supplanted by better equipment, or in the case of the XB-70, stuff with a better cost-benefit analysis

i just really like the xb-70 and hate it went out like it did

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

i just really like the xb-70 and hate it went out like it did

I love the Corsair, but everything in life has a shelf-life.

Except Cheez-Wiz.

 

[VA5124]

I love the Corsair, but everything in life has a shelf-life.

Except Cheez-Wiz.

your not the only corsair lover i am too