Your top 10 modern fighters

[Henk]

Yes, but the shape is very much the same.

Henk

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

the bigger one is the Su-27

images from
http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/alain2005&page=all

 

[Henk]

looma the pics does not work mate.

Henk

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

did u try the URL?
it works on my PC

 

[Henk]

It will take ages for me to be able to go through all those pictures, dail-up, but I will try again.

Henk

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

the URL below the pics displays thumbnails,probably small enough for dial-up

 

[Gnomey]

The pics work for me...

Nice pics too...

 

[Henk]

Ok, wait I got some of them now. You see it is the company that supply the net to me that is so stupid. Why do you think looma is the Su-27 larger than the Mig-29?

Henk

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

because it is larger, you can carry more powerful engines, better avionics, better armament in a larger airframe

 

[Henk]

Yes, but have you seen the range of the Su-27. For such a aircraft it is great. The Su-27 is a great aircraft and I would get some of those baby's in my airforce if I had my own country. The Su-27 are mostly not talked about it is always just the US aircraft.

I think that the Su-27 is better than what the west can produce right now.

But, we should also look at the skill of the pilot again. If you take the South African Bush War you would see it was the Mirage against the Mig-23, Mig-21, Mig-15, Mig-17, Mig-25 etc. etc. Some of those aircraft are way ahead of the Mirages the South African Airforce had, but who had the best kills ratio?

The pilot makes or brake your airforce.

Henk

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

you can make a russian bystander jump into a yak, but not a sophisticated jet fighter like the MiG-23/25

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

The Su-27 and the Mig-29 have 2 different roles.

The Mig-29 is more of a fighter like the F-16. In fact it was designed to counter the F-16. The Su-27 is an interceptor not a fighter and was designed to be an equivilent of the F-15.

 

[Henk]

Yes, but they have now also made a fighter and a fighter bomber of the Su-27. I also seen a recon tipe of the Su-27.

Henk

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yes because it takes up the same roles as the F-15.

 

[Henk]

Ok, I see what you mean mate.

Henk

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

its just that the Su-27 wasn't the unstable-thing type like the F-16 and the F-15 as they don't have very advanced avionics, they designed the Su-27for stability and tweaked it for more maneuverability and agility

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

What are you talking about? The F-15 has some of the best avionix out there in the world and the F-16 has been upgraded to be the same.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i think he was refering to the Su-27, but i'd bet good money on the Su-27 out-manouvering the -15 and -16..........

 

[loomaluftwaffe]

i think he was refering to the Su-27

yeah thats what i meant sorry for the misunderstanding

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Su-27 out-manouvering the -15 and -16..........

No arguments from me here.