13's.... (12 Viewers)

[Lucky13]

have 21 listed losses of "13" for JG53 so far, Jan.....one more book to check....

Crikey Wayne, that's a few...! Thanks a lot mate!

 

[Erich]

well Jan look what I found

Stab II./ZG 26 Leutnant Paul Kaschuba, Ofw. Karl Bredemeier, Me 410B-2 wrk. # 710241, Blue 13 + -

lost in action 1 km East of Plauen on may 21, 1944

 

[lesofprimus]

Now THAT would be a good one to do....

 

[Lucky13]

What the....!? Never in my life I'd expect to find a Me 410 numbered "13"! Thank you so very much Erich, very much appreciated! Just need to find a '410 then....

How's these for Heinz Bar's A-7?

Don't mind the Blue 1, 4 and 13 here, they're purple....

That's why they sent and extra sheet with better colour....

 

[Erich]

well the red 13 for Bär's rig looks a bit compressed the guys whomever do up the decals need to get things historically correct .............look at the year they put down after Darmstadt.............geez

I could be all wrong but that blue 13 decal might be a good choice for the Me 410B and I can almost bet it was NOT a long 5cm cannon bird as well, most likely had the 2cm waffen pod under the fuselage and the other 2-4 cannons - 2cm up front

 

[Lucky13]

If we have that luck, I'll use these "Blue 13" for the '410 then, they're originally for Walter Dahl, but there's a set for his crate in the Royal Class box...so, hopefully it's a all win situation!

Didn't see any for Heinz Bar on EE's website, only found these on Hannant's which is a Aeromaster set....opinion?

 

[Erich]

Jan your avatar isn't growing anything out of her *** is she like an egg-plant or ?

silly aeromaster "Rammjäger" that is real humorous, none of those crates are A-8/R2's SturmFw's

I guess Bärs profile-decals are suitable, where was the profiles of his machine we posted some weeks ago ??

 

[Lucky13]

That's a good question, can't remember Erich.... We had his Me 262 here earlier though.

 

[Lucky13]

Seeing that Heinz "Pritzl" Bär flew a Fw 190 A-7 (Wk.Nr. 431007) "red 13", when commander of II./JG 1. What is the external difference between an A-6, A-7 and an A-8? Is it just that the MG 131's, replacing the MG 17's leading to a bulkier upper gun cowling, just in front of the cockpit? Was this A-7 his only "Red 13", besides the Me 262?

 

[Lucky13]

....and are these acceptable for Walter Dahl and "Pips" Priller?

 

[Erich]

tooooomany questions !!

yes the A-7 had the upper 7.92's replaced by 13mm's

the 13 looks a bit big on Dahl's crate but otherwise is acceptable. Prillers need to get another persons viewpoint. he also flew an unarmored A-8 as well coded blue 13 besides the SturmFw also with 13mms left on and the outboard 3cm's. I think he flew 2 different SturmFw's in Stab./JG 300

 

[Lucky13]

Sorry Erich... and thanks!

 

[Wayne Little]

The Sky Decals and Third Group Decals a pretty close to the mark...what do you think?

Image source : Defenders of the Reich JG 1 Vol.3.

 

[Catch22]

While I'm no expert, by just eyeballing them, it looks like the 1 in the decal sheet on the left is correct, and the 3 on the sheet on the right is correct.

 

[Wurger]

Looking good.But I think the number"1" should have its nose a little bit going down.But it is my impression only.

 

[Lucky13]

Well, the Sky Models declas that I have measure 13mm in hight and 14mm in width,measuring from the top of the "1", I don't know the size of the real thing. Tally Ho! has a few sets of Luftwaffe numerals as well... Seeing that Eduard does an A-8 and an A-6, looking at profile drawings, would it be possible to swap parts around between those kits or is the A-7 from Dragon a good enough representation?

 

[Wurger]

It depends on what parts you mean.

Here corrected number 1 in "13"

 

[Lucky13]

Here's a couple of better close ups on the Baer and Dahl "13"...

 

[Lucky13]

Got this one this morning, while in town getting 0.5 pen for the panel lines. A bit disappointed in the Dragon '190, probably shouldn't have looked in my Eduard box before leaving....

Also, noticed that there are still a panel line for the MW50 tank underneath that will need filling,
need to drill holes for the outside cannons as well.....
Och aye, ye cannae always win..!

 

[Wurger]

Jan these containers on wings were for beer , weren't they?