1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like

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  1. pbfoot

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    fighter spitfire mk1
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    carrier fighter
     
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    syscom3 Pacific Historian

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    Good choices.
    I would add:

    heavy bomber B17
     
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    are you kidding me! in 1939 the B-17 was a peace of junk!
     
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    Well, it was the only heavy bomber in the world in 1939. Better to have something than nothing. Even if it would have been the worlds first night bomber.
     
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    The Lanc didn't even exist - you got to start somewhere.

    The choices were limited.

    Bf-110
    Hurricane
    B-17
    Bf-109
    Ju-88
    Spitfire
    Ki-27
    He-111
    Whitworth
    Wellington
    G3M
    P-35
    Vega

    Like Lanc pointed out they wern't all quite ready yet either. The B-17 needed epenage redesign, There were no P-38s, B-25s, F4Us, F-4Fs even most of the early British bombers were mere prototypes. All the planes mentioned above, in this para., were begining production to meet the light of day in '40.

    Hard list to make since it is right on the line where more capable aircraft are about to come out and nobody was quite ready for the war just starting.

    wmaxt
     
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    there always the stirling
     
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    I agree with your comments. I would also agree with the list that you have chosen, it is a good list.
     
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    lots of choices polish belgian french dutch russian yugoslovia romania
     
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    The Sterling entered service in '40 along with the Halifax and the Pe-8

    I had to cheat some, my reference is right beside me. ;)

    wmaxt
     
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    pbfoot = "lead foot"?
     
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    si senor.... the lanc was doing laps over head on saturday
     
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    7 squadron raf was using stirlings fall 39 according to raf website
     
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    The reference I have is pretty comprehensive but is limited to planes that made an impact so it is primarily French (the D.520 was '40), US, British, Italian, Russian and Japanese through the war years.

    My reference is the Rand McNally Ency. of Military Aircraft ISBN0 517 05655-0.

    BTW: I recomend that reference to any aviation buff, it contains charts of entry into service, color plates of both insignia and aircraft to the same scale and by major model complete with Spec blurbs on that model. The book also contains a good description of its history with a three view drawing.

    wmaxt
     
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    Which country was the dominate force in 1939???? The Japanese??? The Germans???

    I would go with the German Luftwaffe and all that they had in thier inventory... They were almost unstoppable in 1939...
     
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    Air Force wise the Germans were ahead of everyone but the Japanese had already captured most of SE Aisa by then, making them about equal overall. The Japanese had started and the Germans just starting their war.

    Mostly it was a matter of where you were. :(
    wmaxt
     
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    Fighter Spitfire
    Heavy Fighter Me110
    Support Bomber Ju88
    Heavy Bomber Wellington
    Anti Submarine Sunderland

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    109 for Spitfire. Went with the Spit due to guns and Speed
    Fokker G1 for Me110. G1 lost due to speed. It wasn't that fast and a 110 could run from anything in 1939 apart from a Spitfire. plus had devistating firepower for the period.
    He111 for Wellington. The Wellington was a better all round plane.
     
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    but 1n 39 the 110 was a fighter whereas the g1 was fighter/ ground support with heavy weapons 8 x 7.9 mm and 2 x23 mm cannon plus bombs as opposed to 4 x 7.9 and 2 x 20mm
     
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    I am afraid that I cannot find my notes on this plane but from memory the G1 didn't carry 2 x 23 plus 8 x LMG, it was either 2 x 23 or 8 x LMG and most if not all of them carried the 8 x LMG. That said 8 LMG in the nose in 1939 was an impressive amount of firepower remembering that few if any aircraft had Armour or self sealing fuel tanks..
    The G1 was very agile and capable of taking on the single engined fighters of the day. I can only say that what made me select the 110 was the speed, dive and additional power of the Cannon. Its a choice
     
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    your right i missed the comma in my reference it was 2 lmg and 2 cannon or 8 lmg well ithought i was perfect but am mistaken wheres all the guys with p36
     
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    Fighter-Bf-109
    Heavy Fighter-Bf-110
    Ground support-Breda Ba-65
    Main bomber-Mitsubishi G3M
    Carrier fighter-A5M4 Claude
    trainer-AT6
    Coastal defence/torpedoe bomber-SIAI SM.79
    Coastal patrol or bomber-CANT Z.506
    Fighter/bomber-Ki-27
     
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