1n 1939 what would your operational airforce look like

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

But if I post 2 after another...

It counts double

ok i wont do it again.

Being a smart ass even for a 5th grader is not going to get you very far.

 

[Glider]

Personally My selections would be -
fighter Me109
Advantages over the Spitfire in 1939 being the engine and dive.

Heavy Bomber Wellington
I like the powered turrets and general range/payload. The LMG was sufficient against most fighters armed with LMG's witout armour or sealing tanks.

Medium bomber ju88a
Need I say anything?

ground support Stuka
coastal patrol pby4
transport c-47
primary trainer Miles Magister
advanced trainer at 6 harvard (texan)
carrier fighter Brewster Buffalo

 

[Vincenzo]

an other real air force(s) for september 1939:
fighters: P26, P35, P36
carrier fighters: F2F, F3F, F2A
heavy bombers: Y1B17, B18
bombers: B10, B12
attack: A12, A17, A18
carrier dive bombers: BT, BG, SBC, SB2U
carrier torpedo bomber:TBD
observation: O38, O46, O47, old Keystone bombers
carrier observation: SF, SU2, SU3, SU4

 

[Marcel]

Fokker G1 for Me110. G1 lost due to speed. It wasn't that fast and a 110 could run from anything in 1939 apart from a Spitfire. plus had devistating firepower for the period.

The Bf110C actually had a lower cruisespeed than the G.I plus the G.I seems to have been more manouverable according to dutch pilots.
As for firepower, the G.I original had 2 20MM and 2 7.62 MG's in the nose and 1 7.62 in the back, what I call quite heavy for the time.

 

[Vincenzo]

a third example for september '39
fighters: Ki 10, Ki 27
carrier fighters: A4N, A5M
heavy bomber: Ki 20 (only six and unfit for war)
bombers: Ki 2, Ki 21, Ki 30, Ki 32, B.R. 20, G3M
support: Ki 36
carrier torpedo bombers: B4Y, B5M, B5N
carrier dive bomber: D1A
recce: C5M/Ki15, Ki 4, Type 88

 

[fly boy]

i thought that lancs were around in 39

 

[Vincenzo]

a fourth example:
fighters: I 5, I 15, I 153, I 16, DI 6
long range bombers: TB 3, DB 3
bombers: SB
recce: R 5, R 10, R Z

 

[Vincenzo]

a fifth esample:
fighters: Bf 109 (D and E version)
carrier fighter: Bf 109B (but no carrier)
heavy fighter: Bf 110C
bombers: Do 17 (M and Z), He 111 (P and H), Ju 88A
dive bomber: Ju 87B
carrier dive bomber: Ju 87B (no carrier)
recce: He 45, He 46, Hs 126, Do 17 (L and P), He 111J

 

[Freebird]

Good list Jabberwocky, I would take them {with a few exceptions}

Fighter- Supermarine Spitfire Mk 1

Fighter 2- Messerschmitt Bf-109E4

Fighter Bomber- Curtiss Hawk 75A

Heavy Fighter Bomber/Night Fighter- Messerschmitt Bf-110C4

Carrier Fighter- Brewster F2A1

STOL/Liasion- Westland Lysander

Seaplane- Short Sunderland

Attack Bomber- Bloch 174

Dive Bomber- Junkers Ju-87B

Medium Bomber- Douglas DB-7 Boston II

Medium Bomber2- Junkers Ju-88 {LeO 451}

Heavy Bomber- B-17B

Maratime Bomber- Cant Z.1007bis Alcione

Torpeedo Bomber- Douglas TDB Devestator {B5N1 Kate}

Glider- D.F.S. 230

Transport- Converted Wellington III

Carrier dive bomber - Sea Skua

Probably gone a little overboard here with 16 different types, but it did get me thinking.

Other types that I couldn't really find a place for but wanted include: Bristol Beaufort Mk I, Dewointe D.520, I think those two debut in 1940?

He-111H, PBY Catalina, Feisler Storcj, Polikarpof Po-2, and the HK6 Emily.

I would take the Leo 451 over the Ju 88 though, it was faster, and had a better ceiling, range payload.

I think the B5N1 entered service in 1938, was it not a better TB than the Devastator?

Should the B-17B still be considered a heavy bomber even with it's limited payload? (4,800 lb?)

 

[Flydude21]

I would have a squade of F4U corsairs
and a small squade of SPITS to guard the B-25'S

 

[magnocain]

Speaking of my air force...I have been working on a insignia to go with it.

What do you think

Fighter: bf 109
Bomber: B-17
Alternate Fighter: D.520
Alternate Bomber: ju88
Other: Fi 156 storch
Transport: c47
Flying Boat/Transport: Sunderland
Carrier Fighter:f4f (or the 109)
Carrier Bomber: SBD dauntless (or sea stuka)

 

[Vincenzo]

a 6th example of real air force in september 1939

fighters: SPAD 510, MB 151, MB 152, D 501, D 510, MS 406, H75A, NiD 622, NiD 629, D 371, LGL 32, Lo 46
carrier fighters: D 373, D 376
heavy fighters: Potez 630 and 631
heavy bombers: Farman 221 and 222
bombers: Amiot 143M, MB 200, MB 210, LeO 206, LeO 451, Potez 633
carrier bombers: PL 7, PL 101, PL 10, V156F
recce: ANF 113, ANF 115, ANF 117, MB 131, Breguet 270, Potez 25, Potez 390, Potez 540, Potez 542, Potez 637

 

[Vincenzo]

a 7th example:

fighters: C.R. 30, C.R. 32, C.R. 42, G. 50, Ro. 41, M.C. 200
attack: AP.1, Ba. 64, Ba. 65, Ba. 88
observations: Ro. 37, Ro. 1, Ca. 309
bombers: Ca. 111, Ca. 133, Ca. 135, B.R. 20, S.M. 79, S.M. 81, Z. 1007, P. 32
dive bomber: S.M. 85

 

[pbfoot]

a 7th example:

fighters: C.R. 30, C.R. 32, C.R. 42, G. 50, Ro. 41, M.C. 200
attack: AP.1, Ba. 64, Ba. 65, Ba. 88
observations: Ro. 37, Ro. 1, Ca. 309
bombers: Ca. 111, Ca. 133, Ca. 135, B.R. 20, S.M. 79, S.M. 81, Z. 1007, P. 32
dive bomber: S.M. 85

Ok now pick one of each type from any nation fot your choice

 

[Vincenzo]

too fast i need to post others, if i find info i want post also poland, nederland and romania,
so remain out only a few of aircraft company (avia, letov, renard, and some other that not remember,
obv telling only serviceable planes in sep '39)

 

[Vincenzo]

the 8th:
fighters: PZL P. 7, PZL P. 11
bombers: PZL 37, PZL 23
observation: R XIII, RWD 14

 

[Vincenzo]

the 9th:
fighter: D XXI, D XVII
heavy fighter: G I
bomber: T V, Martin 139 and 166
attack: DB8A3N
recce: C V, C X, FK 51

 

[pbfoot]

the 9th:
fighter: D XXI
heavy fighter: G I
bomber: T V
attack: DB8A3N
recce: C V, C X, FK 51

But the question is what would your Air Force look like in 1939 not whateverybody elses does

 

[Vincenzo]

i see many people that tell of aircraft post 1939, so all can done a idea what were the '39 aircrafts

 

[Marcel]

Few changes:

the 9th:
fighter: D XXI, D.XVII, DB8A3N
heavy fighter: G I, T.V
bomber: T V, C.X
attack: DB8A3N, G.I
recce: C V, C X, FK 51, G.I