"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (8 Viewers)
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Wagner forces will turn columns back from Moscow advance, Prigozhin says
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko claimed he had brokered a truce, as Russia’s Vladimir Putin warned of potential civil war.
U.S. evaluating what Wagner Group rebellion means for Ukraine war
Biden administration officials also expressed concerns about what the mercenary group's actions mean for Vladimir Putin's hold on power.
www.politico.com
Ascent
Senior Airman
I don't see how it t can just go back to business as usual after that little display. After the march to Moscow in such rapid time, apparently regular units either joining or not putting up resistance, and it would seem the government in panic things cannot stay the same. Putin was made to look weak, it will destroy what little trust there is between units and surely the Russians will now start to pull decent units back for internal security?
swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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- Jun 25, 2013
Violent regime change wasn't unheard of before 1917 (Czar Nicholas II made sure none of the 1905 reforms lasted. Violent secret police were not a bolshevik invention)
There likely won't be any winners in Russia's coup — but it will give Ukraine an opportunity to step up its attacks while Putin watches his back
Mick Ryan, a retired major general, told Insider reports of a coup in Russia will lead to more chaos in the war no matter the outcome.
www.businessinsider.com
The most successful drone in Ukraine
This will ruffle feathers but it’s how I see it. Quietly being assembled and flown in Ukraine in a variety of roles the Corvo Precision Payload Delivery System (PPDS). There are multiple ways…
www.suasnews.com
I actually visited these guys a few weeks back - a lot going on there.
Putin has never looked so vulnerable, and it's due to his own creations
Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to launch a full-scale war against Ukraine has backfired catastrophically, so much so that it may end up leading to his downfall, writes Steve Cannane.
www.abc.net.au
buffnut453
Captain
Things do appear to be calming down in Russia, with indicators that Wagner forces are withdrawing:
Wagner troops have started to leave Rostov-on-Don, according Russian state-owned news agency Tass. Four pickup trucks have left, but tanks and other heavy equipment remain, it says.
For most of today, the southern Russian city was at the centre of Wagner's "mutiny". Wagner mercenaries entered the city in the early hours of Saturday and reportedly took over the regional military command.
For the entire day social media was awash with rumours of explosions and shots fired, along with videos of Wagner soldiers setting up posts in the city centre and warnings that Chechen troops were approaching to fight them off.
That said, the source appears to be Tass...so the opposite could be true.
Wagner troops have started to leave Rostov-on-Don, according Russian state-owned news agency Tass. Four pickup trucks have left, but tanks and other heavy equipment remain, it says.
For most of today, the southern Russian city was at the centre of Wagner's "mutiny". Wagner mercenaries entered the city in the early hours of Saturday and reportedly took over the regional military command.
For the entire day social media was awash with rumours of explosions and shots fired, along with videos of Wagner soldiers setting up posts in the city centre and warnings that Chechen troops were approaching to fight them off.
That said, the source appears to be Tass...so the opposite could be true.
Glider
Captain
The person who is likely to have a very difficult conversation is Dmitry Medvedev. A Russian blogger reported that the Deputy Chairman was one of those who flew to Turkey when the Wagner Group were closing in on Moscow.
I cannot see that going down well with Putin and I would give a lot to be a fly on the wall when they next meet.
I cannot see that going down well with Putin and I would give a lot to be a fly on the wall when they next meet.
RogerdeLluria
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Thumpalumpacus
Major
From an op-ed just posted:
There are many possible outcomes to this revolt, but Putin is unlikely to win in the long term, for today it was demonstrated that nobody is willing to die for Putin. Putin is weak, delusional and a nuclear danger. His closest aids are waiting to pounce. Even if Prigozhin is really withdrawing his troops (which remains to be seen, for both parties to the agreement are not renowned to keep their word), the sad spectacle of armed criminals, aided and abetted by Putin, marching on him is enough to do him in in the long run.
Anyway, all this is a boon for Ukraine. Any revolt, rebellion or violent change usually ushers in a brief partial paralysis of state. That's how Putin snatched up Crimea in 2014. Now it's Ukraine's turn.
There are many possible outcomes to this revolt, but Putin is unlikely to win in the long term, for today it was demonstrated that nobody is willing to die for Putin. Putin is weak, delusional and a nuclear danger. His closest aids are waiting to pounce. Even if Prigozhin is really withdrawing his troops (which remains to be seen, for both parties to the agreement are not renowned to keep their word), the sad spectacle of armed criminals, aided and abetted by Putin, marching on him is enough to do him in in the long run.
Anyway, all this is a boon for Ukraine. Any revolt, rebellion or violent change usually ushers in a brief partial paralysis of state. That's how Putin snatched up Crimea in 2014. Now it's Ukraine's turn.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Russian mercenary boss Prigozhin will move to Belarus, case against him to be dropped
Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will move to Belarus under a deal brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko to end an armed mutiny
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Russian mercenary boss Prigozhin will move to Belarus, case against him to be dropped
Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will move to Belarus under a deal brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko to end an armed mutinyenglish.alarabiya.net
lol ... "you stole my mercenaries!"
