"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (5 Viewers)

GTX · 2024-08-11T16:55:05-0400

SaparotRob said:
Unchain the Vipers!..and ATACMs..and everything else we give Ukraine.

X2

MiTasol · 2024-08-11T17:19:49-0400

Admiral Beez said:
My hope is surprise amphibious assault. Putin would look like an idiot to the Russian people if Ukraine gains a foothold on Crimea.

"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again."

Is a permanent, city-seizing landing truly possible? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YxbGNrs4KZ4&t=729s How would Ukraine get the ten thousand or more troops onto Crimea? And how to support them? On the first step, perhaps a nighttime parachute or helicopter drop? Or grain ships...

ww2aircraft.net

I'm suggesting a modern, but secret conversion of merchant ships to LST. A dozen ship sail from Odessa, declared as grain carriers under foreign flags. But at the last moment, while under F-16 and drone cover the ships hoist the Ukrainian flag and turn for Crimea!

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Here's a beach in Crimea this summer, but with a dozen such ships. Once she stops, the disguised bow doors open and AFU tanks, AFVs, assault troops and engineering/support units pour out.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RLOXIIi5-24&pp=ygUdQ2FyZ28gc2hpcCBjcmFzaGVzIG9udG8gYmVhY2g%3D

I doubt they could hide the conversion but doing a dark night tanker crash into a target in Sevastopol Harbour with a water filled tanker loaded with incendiaries in the bow, rocket launchers in the middle and a small fast black low profile escape pod at the stern for the crew to escape in the chaos would sure create havoc.

Thumpalumpacus · 2024-08-11T17:55:48-0400

An engaging video I haven't finished yet, so I don't know his conclusion, but he strikes me as very thoughtful on this operation. Bit of a long watch, but so far it seems worthwhile.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kndAdLxnasM

Admiral Beez · 2024-08-11T17:59:39-0400

MiTasol said:
I doubt they could hide the conversion but doing a dark night tanker crash into a target in Sevastopol Harbour with a water filled tanker loaded with incendiaries in the bow, rocket launchers in the middle and a small fast black low profile escape pod at the stern for the crew to escape in the chaos would sure create havoc.

Memories of HMS Campbeltown. But I want Ukrainian boots on the ground as the beginning of a beachhead and breakout.

MiTasol · 2024-08-11T18:08:30-0400

One of the side benefits for the Ukrainians in Kursk is they will probably capture a lot of Russian ammunition that they can deliver back to the Russians at very high velocity.

Thumpalumpacus · 2024-08-11T18:31:11-0400

MiTasol said:
I doubt they could hide the conversion but doing a dark night tanker crash into a target in Sevastopol Harbour with a water filled tanker loaded with incendiaries in the bow, rocket launchers in the middle and a small fast black low profile escape pod at the stern for the crew to escape in the chaos would sure create havoc.

It's not a single drydock, it's a large harbor. Incendiaries aren't going to break stuff, and -- because it's a harbor filled with water -- aren't going to burn much.

Denniss · 2024-08-11T18:39:42-0400

MiTasol said:
One of the side benefits for the Ukrainians in Kursk is they will probably capture a lot of Russian ammunition that they can deliver back to the Russians at very high velocity.

ammo, tanks, vehicles, other material and a lot of prisoners for future exchanges. Claims are around they already captured 1k russians.

SaparotRob · 2024-08-11T19:01:04-0400

Thumpalumpacus said:
——- because it's a harbor filled with water -- aren't going to burn much.

Not with that attitude.

Thumpalumpacus · 2024-08-11T19:06:44-0400

SaparotRob said:
Not with that attitude.

It'll be a pretty fireworks display, for what that's worth.

GrauGeist · 2024-08-11T19:30:45-0400

Thumpalumpacus said:
It's not a single drydock, it's a large harbor. Incendiaries aren't going to break stuff, and -- because it's a harbor filled with water -- aren't going to burn much.

Plenty of targets in the Harbor to target.

While the bulk of the Black Sea fleet has been relocated, there is still shipping, such as fuel and supply ships for their ground forces.

Snowman · 2024-08-11T21:19:20-0400

View: https://x.com/tendar/status/1822746334618669237?s=61

MiTasol · 2024-08-11T21:47:28-0400

Thumpalumpacus said:
It's not a single drydock, it's a large harbor. Incendiaries aren't going to break stuff, and -- because it's a harbor filled with water -- aren't going to burn much.

But they are going to create such a bright fire up front and that will destroy the orcs night vision. Than in turn means that the crew escaping at the rear will be much harder to see - especially if the ship lays a smoke screen as soon as it hits the nets across the mouth of the harbour. And there must be a good target or two in there or just outside there.

"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (5 Viewers)

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