"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (1 Viewer)

Admiral Beez · Apr 3, 2022

vikingBerserker said:
I still don't get the ok to send tanks, not ok to send aircraft.

If the Poles has kept their traps shut the MiGs could have been sent. All the Poles had to do was repaint them in Ukrainian colours for Ukraine pilots to fly over the border. But Poland had to play it cute.

Thumpalumpacus · Apr 3, 2022

Admiral Beez said:
If the Poles has kept their traps shut the MiGs could have been sent. All the Poles had to do was repaint them in Ukrainian colours for Ukraine pilots to fly over the border. But Poland had to play it cute.

They clearly didn't want to do that going it alone, hence flying them through a US base. If the ruse were to be discovered, I'm not sure -- nor, apparently, were they -- that Article 5 would apply.

I bet they could still be crated up and driven over the frontier.

SaparotRob · Apr 3, 2022

And some Super Hornet and/or Viper instructions. Something to read in the waiting room.

Thumpalumpacus · Apr 3, 2022

SaparotRob said:
And some Super Hornet and/or Viper instructions. Something to read in the waiting room.

I'd trade MiG-29s for F-16s any day of the week, and twice on Sundays. A bit of training time, to be sure, but worth it.

ETA: I just remembered that today's a Sunday.

Admiral Beez · Apr 3, 2022

Thumpalumpacus said:
They clearly didn't want to do that going it alone, hence flying them through a US base.

I think the Poles wanted their replacement F-16s first.

SaparotRob · Apr 3, 2022

I forgot about that bit of fine print. I'm sure that could've been discussed, and buried, with the rest of all the diplomatic chatter.

XBe02Drvr · Apr 3, 2022

Admiral Beez said:
I think the Poles wanted their replacement F-16s first.

Those MiG29s aren't currently operational for Poland, so don't represent a reduction in active force. Paint them blue and yellow, tow them to the border, and leave the keys in the ignition. Oh, and give "Juice" a call while you're at it.

J_P_C · Apr 3, 2022

special ed said:
My thought too. No flares, using only darkness and low altitude for defense. What concerned me. was the near misses/early detonations just behind the tails. Was that a problem with the missile or was there some sort of defense used to cause the early explosion? It appears a rapid second shot defeated any such defensive deployment

microwave jammer Lipa/Ispanka - but it does not worked too well - considering speed of missiles and effect it wasn't classic MANPADS - anyway freaking effective

Escuadrilla Azul · Apr 3, 2022

This is my wife french bulldog. Due to its combative spirit, I'm thinking of naming him the Ghost of Kyiv, as an ukrainian bulldog.

Slava Ukrainia!

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hawkeye2an · Apr 3, 2022

"JUICE"

SaparotRob · Apr 3, 2022

The bacon is for the dog, Dawg.

swampyankee · Apr 3, 2022

There are reports that Russian forces have left behind decapitated civilians and tortured children in their latest withdrawal. Alas, powerful enough countries are immune to war crime tribunals.

nuuumannn · Apr 3, 2022

hawkeye2an said:
Do you think a tractor can tow the An to Kermit Weeks?

On a New Zealand forum, there's talk of sending it to Pioneer or Avspecs at Ardmore, purveyors of fine P-40 and de Havilland Mosquito restorations...

GrauGeist said:
And no love for the Volga or Trabant, it seems...

I almost bought a Trabbi when I was dating an East German girl in my 20s. Her cousin in Dresden had one and was gonna sell it to us for 300 deutschmarks. We were thinking of buying it and driving it back to the UK, but to get it insured was more than the car was worth.

Europe 301

MiTasol · Apr 3, 2022

I was asked if I had seen the latest John Deere ad on youtube so went looking. Could not find it but enjoyed some of the footage

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+deere+tank+ukraine

Thumpalumpacus · Apr 3, 2022

Admiral Beez said:
I think the Poles wanted their replacement F-16s first.

My reading indicates that it was scuppered by American officials. Given reasons include the undesirability of flying them from a NATO base as Poland suggested, as well as the idea of flying NATO aid directly into contested airspace.

Fact check: US rejected Polish plan to send fighter jets to Ukraine

Polish officials announced a plan to send fighter jets to Ukraine through a U.S. base without consulting the U.S. The U.S. won't participate.

www.usatoday.com

nuuumannn · Apr 3, 2022

GrauGeist said:
Love this part:
"Moscow says, without proof or any reliability, that its war aims in central Ukraine have been achieved, and they never included capturing Kyiv."

Wow. Nothing like shifting the goalposts to declare mission completion...

Jabberwocky · Apr 3, 2022

Jagdflieger said:
Does anyone know if NATO countries are still being supplied with Russian gas and oil? - thanks

Regards
Jagdflieger

They are. Disentangling Europe from Russian oil & gas imports will take a long time.

I think only the US and UK (and maybe Canada) have enacted/introduced Russian oil & gas embargoes. Most other NATO states are seeking alternative sources (primarily Middle East and Nigeria), but getting those contracts going and then arranging export/import is not something that happens overnight. Think months, rather than days or weeks.

Russian oil exports are already starting to fall precipitously - it looks like March exports will be down by about a third compared to the average of the previous 12 months. Russia exported an average of 4.4 million barrels per day in 2021, but this looks likely to drop to about 3 million barrels for March (and probably for April too).

There's a couple of flies in the sanctions ointment though - India and China. Indian oil buyers are snapping up Russian crude at record discounts - reportedly $25-30 a barrel below pre-war market levels. India imported 6 million barrels from Russian in the first three weeks of March, or about half of what it imported from Russian in all of 2021.

China has also started to buy more Russian oil and gas, although there are a couple of things that are keeping Chinese buyers from greater imports. Russia want to be paid in Rubles, China wants to pay in Yuan. Which means they'll probably both have to do the exchanges in USD or EUR.

Medium term, you'll see most of Western Europe cut Russia out of its energy mix. Only problem is that they then have to do business with states like Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

SaparotRob · Apr 3, 2022

I'm thinking it'll be in yuan.

What's the tallest building in Moscow?
FSB headquarters. You can see Siberia from the basement.

nuuumannn · Apr 3, 2022

SaparotRob said:
FSB headquarters. You can see Siberia from the basement.

Lubyanka. "When you go to visit Lubyanka, you never leave Lubyanka again..."

XBe02Drvr · Apr 3, 2022

nuuumannn said:
Lubyanka. "When you go to visit Lubyanka, you never leave Lubyanka again..."

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."
Welcome to the Hotel Lubyanka.

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