Glider
Captain
I was wondering about that. It starting to look as if Logistics is as dangerous a posting as the front line. They cannot all be 'user error' and it implies that the Russian Front line is porous at best
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Escuadrilla Azul
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One killed, eight injured as blasts rock Russian air base in annexed Crimea
An advisor to Ukraine's President denies Kyiv is behind explosions at a Russian air base near seaside resorts in annexed Crimea.www.abc.net.au
Admiral Beez
Major
Indeed. It's clear that if you're an invader within the territory of Ukraine you are no longer untouchable, wherever you are.
This effectively demonstrates that the Russians are not safe anywhere. And puts the whole Black Sea region under threat.
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Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
Aftermath of the Saki/Saky airbase strike in Crimea will be interesting to view when the opint satellite photos start filtering out in the next 4 to 6 hours. Videos show at least four (probable) bomb/missile hits, all of which produced significant secondary explosions (three of which were VERY large indeed). Looks like the ammunition dumps and fuel farms were wiped out.
Open source twitterati counted 15 Su-24s, 13 Su-27/30 types, 1 Il-76, a half dozen other fixed wing transport aircraft and six helicopters at the base from satellite imagery taken the morning of the attack. At least three or four aircraft were parked in close proximity (under 50 meters) to munitions buildings or fueling infrastructure.
Open source twitterati counted 15 Su-24s, 13 Su-27/30 types, 1 Il-76, a half dozen other fixed wing transport aircraft and six helicopters at the base from satellite imagery taken the morning of the attack. At least three or four aircraft were parked in close proximity (under 50 meters) to munitions buildings or fueling infrastructure.
Admiral Beez
Major
Apparently so, if this July Tweet's claims can be verifed.
I look forward to the satellite images once the sun's up over Crimea. Sunrise is 5:40 am, so by 7 am latest we should have a clear picture.
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Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
No official delivery of ATACMS yet. US officials commented yesterday that they may be in the next package of armaments. Note the tweet above says they "will be getting" ATACMS. Those M270s were supplied by the UK, and I don't think they've acquired ATACMS yet.
Lots of speculation about what happened right now. An unidentified Ukrainian defense official said "a device exclusively of Ukrainian manufacture was used" for the strike. Read into that what you will. Some military blogs are speculating that Ukraine used up some Grim-2 medium range missiles it had been developing - although there has been no indication the system was anywhere close to operation. Other speculations are: a drone strike from sea launch platforms, similar to the Black Sea Fleet headquarters strike; sea launched Harpoon strike; a good old fashioned commando raid or partisan activity.
Russia is claiming that there was a "self-detonation of munitions" at the base. How considerate. Even Russia's own munitions are against them.
EDIT: Footage/pictures purportedly of Saki Airbase starting to emerge. So far at least one Su-24 and one Su-30 appear damaged beyond repair.
Lots of speculation about what happened right now. An unidentified Ukrainian defense official said "a device exclusively of Ukrainian manufacture was used" for the strike. Read into that what you will. Some military blogs are speculating that Ukraine used up some Grim-2 medium range missiles it had been developing - although there has been no indication the system was anywhere close to operation. Other speculations are: a drone strike from sea launch platforms, similar to the Black Sea Fleet headquarters strike; sea launched Harpoon strike; a good old fashioned commando raid or partisan activity.
Russia is claiming that there was a "self-detonation of munitions" at the base. How considerate. Even Russia's own munitions are against them.
EDIT: Footage/pictures purportedly of Saki Airbase starting to emerge. So far at least one Su-24 and one Su-30 appear damaged beyond repair.
Admiral Beez
Major
My wife is Ukrainian-Canadian, so I was always a fan, but the Ukrainian people just rock! The last time we saw such underdog success was in the early Arab-Israeli when pre-nuke Israel fought ALL of its neighbours at once and won. When this is over the wife and I will definitely be visiting Ukraine and spending some tourist dollars.
www.elle.com
The World Is Falling in Love With Ukraine. It’s Beautiful—and Painful—to Watch
It should not have taken all of this—air raids and casualties, threats of nuclear attacks, and inflated gas prices—to learn Ukraine’s location on a map.
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Thumpalumpacus
Major
An article I read referred to smoking cigarettes being a possible cause according to the Russians.
What idiot doesn't know that a flight-line is no-smoking for a reason? Even if the Russian explanation is perfectly true, it bespeaks a very shoddy level of training and/or discipline. It reads like a shitty excuse to me.
buffnut453
Captain
Show me a Russian excuse that wasn't shitty! I mean, really, please...from the excuse for the (not an) invasion, to the "we achieved our objectives and now we're refocusing" form of retreat, to the "the West made us do it." They're all laughable.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Then there was the Moskva, which just according to Moscow, had a fire onboard,.
Then it was ok, with no issues.
Then it was in rough seas but still ok.
Then the entire "crew" filmed being given awards during a review.
Then they reported it "may have" been sunk.
How can anyone one take them seriously?
If they told me the sky was blue, I'd immediately go outside and stare long and hard, just to be sure.
Then it was ok, with no issues.
Then it was in rough seas but still ok.
Then the entire "crew" filmed being given awards during a review.
Then they reported it "may have" been sunk.
How can anyone one take them seriously?
If they told me the sky was blue, I'd immediately go outside and stare long and hard, just to be sure.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
Yes. Multiple, simultaneous cigarette smokers over the course of nearly 30 minutes....
Shades of the Iraqi Ministry of Information circa 2003 here.
Admiral Beez
Major
Thumpalumpacus
Major
I have to admit, I'm so mesmerized by those windscreens that I cannot see the smoker.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Mighty rude of the Ukrainians to interrupt a smoke-break.
buffnut453
Captain
Well, they keep telling us that smoking kills. What more proof is needed?
at6
1st Sergeant
Nothing tastier than crispy Orc. Beats original recipe.
Perhaps they were (and still are) trying to put up a smokescreen ?
Admiral Beez
Major
No satalite imagery yet of the Saky airbase? All I'm seeing online are the usually tabloid, clickbait sites repeating the same news from yesterday. Is the airfield cratered and aircraft destroyed?
