SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Did you scroll down and the leaked Ukrainian Kherson offensive?
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Did you scroll down and the leaked Ukrainian Kherson offensive?
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
That is not what I was expecting. I thought the Ukrainian provided casualty numbers were mostly of separatists and not Russians. Wow, that's a lotta' Ladas.
"Almost" official 50 thousand: Russia published information about the losses of the army in Ukraine - Ukraine Today .org
The published document is dated 08/26/2022, that is, it does not include data before the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Russian opposition leader Mikhail Khodorkovsky published information about the dead soldiers of the regular troops of the Russian Federation. He gave the...ukrainetoday.org
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
We supply Ukraine with HIMARS and they supply us with their tractor forces.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
That's just someone's imagination.
You can be sure that Ukraine will not step foot on Russian soil - their goal is to expel the Russian invaders from their homeland, nothing more.
Admiral Beez
Major
Definitely. I'm sure that's demand #1 from NATO.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
I'm not sure if NATO has "demanded" anything like that, the U.S. had reservations about sending long range munitions, which is rather silly, because the distances involved wouldn't require a long range munition to reach Russia proper.
Zelensky has stated time and again that their goal is to expel the invaders and his general staff (which is showing to be extremely competent) knows that to attack Russia would firstly, play into Putin's rhetoric and secondly, cause escalation that might provoke Putin to use tactical nukes.
Zelensky has stated time and again that their goal is to expel the invaders and his general staff (which is showing to be extremely competent) knows that to attack Russia would firstly, play into Putin's rhetoric and secondly, cause escalation that might provoke Putin to use tactical nukes.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Dave, I know. I nearly soiled myself laughing at that Grand Tour. I don't hold Kherson Cat to the same level of veracity as I would Mainstream News.
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
So, having just watched a bunch of stuff on the counter offensive, I checked out what the other side was saying. It seems Russia is in the best possible position. I tried to follow his reasoning but decided I was due back on Earth.
Glider
Captain
If this is even close to correct, then the Russian losses are huge. I presume that Russian losses would exclude those from the 'liberated area's' captured in 2014 which would make the losses scary, very scary. With 50,000 dead you are looking at approx 200,000 dead and wounded
On a second thought. There can be no doubt that these two attacks will be sucking in the forces of both sides. Remembering that Russia never had enough troops to take over and control the whole of Ukraine. The losses and forced concentration in those two areas, must leave huge areas where Russia can have almost no control at all, giving partisan or other special forces practically unlimited opportunities for making trouble.
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ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
re RF losses
Since the post-Vietnam era, losses for modern 1st world ground forces have been about 1 dead per 2 wounded seriously enough to not be able to return to combat (or at least not anytime soon). How we should count Russia in terms of modern combat medical services is open to question.
Although Jagdflieger pushed for the idea that a large amount of the initial fighting was being carried out by separatist forces, this does not seem to be correct. All(?) of the advances have been carried out by Russian troops, with various Russian units deployed to hold the territories gained. The separatist forces have been fighting mainly in defensive positions in the east. The last that I heard there are only 2 actual separatist combat units operating outside of the Donbas/Donetsk/Luhansk areas, although there are a few small specialist units and some contingents acting in support roles for the RF. An example is that a fair amount of the supply convoy duties include separatist personnel. For the most part only volunteers from the separatist areas are being used in combat outside of the Donbas/Donetsk/Luhansk, and there does not appear to be a large number of volunteers.
The last number for separatist forces KIA that I have seen is a little over 7,000 since 24 February. But it should be noted that official records for the separatist forces are sketchy, ie even the separatist governments are uncertain as to what is going on with their own forces. There have been multiple recent cases where communication was lost with separatist units, and when someone was sent to find out why coms were down they found the positions/areas deserted and no trace of the personnel assigned, only abandoned equipment.
Since the post-Vietnam era, losses for modern 1st world ground forces have been about 1 dead per 2 wounded seriously enough to not be able to return to combat (or at least not anytime soon). How we should count Russia in terms of modern combat medical services is open to question.
Although Jagdflieger pushed for the idea that a large amount of the initial fighting was being carried out by separatist forces, this does not seem to be correct. All(?) of the advances have been carried out by Russian troops, with various Russian units deployed to hold the territories gained. The separatist forces have been fighting mainly in defensive positions in the east. The last that I heard there are only 2 actual separatist combat units operating outside of the Donbas/Donetsk/Luhansk areas, although there are a few small specialist units and some contingents acting in support roles for the RF. An example is that a fair amount of the supply convoy duties include separatist personnel. For the most part only volunteers from the separatist areas are being used in combat outside of the Donbas/Donetsk/Luhansk, and there does not appear to be a large number of volunteers.
The last number for separatist forces KIA that I have seen is a little over 7,000 since 24 February. But it should be noted that official records for the separatist forces are sketchy, ie even the separatist governments are uncertain as to what is going on with their own forces. There have been multiple recent cases where communication was lost with separatist units, and when someone was sent to find out why coms were down they found the positions/areas deserted and no trace of the personnel assigned, only abandoned equipment.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Alien abduction?
Scully!!!
Scully!!!
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
I have always been suspect of the "separatists", as these were supposedly Ukrainians that were loyal to Russia.
Considering that the vast majority of Ukrainians are devoted to their country, these large number of "separatists" seemed a bit suspect.
Considering that the vast majority of Ukrainians are devoted to their country, these large number of "separatists" seemed a bit suspect.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
That's what the Ukrainians have been saying since 2014.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
I am still continuously struck by how much the Ukraine looks like rural Minnesota during my childhood (1960s-1970s).
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
You should cruise through California's Central Valley - it is identical to Bulgaria's central valley and large areas of Ukraine.
Complete with sunflowers as far as the eye can see.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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- Jul 5, 2015
No but I have seen that somewhere else.
With your permission I copy here, some humor is always healthy
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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- Jul 5, 2015
For me it's obvious that is someone sense of humor. That is how i get it at least.
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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- Jul 5, 2015
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
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- Jul 5, 2015
RogerdeLluria
Staff Sergeant
- 1,325
- Jul 5, 2015
Russian tank ace crowned world champion killed in real war
Bato Basanov, 25, was in a record-breaking tank biathlon team that performed in war games in front of defence minister Sergei Shoigu and chief of the army general staff Valery Gerasimov
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