"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (6 Viewers)
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buffnut453
Captain
Only if the fallen were, themselves, honourable. 'Fraid I'm never going to shed tears over dead SS soldiers. Likewise, I feel no compulsion to honour Russian soldiers who have waged a murderous war of aggression against the people of Ukraine. If they'd actively tried to minimize civilian casualties, I'd feel differently….but there's plenty of evidence they sought to maximize civilian deaths. As such, they are without honour and, IMHO, unworthy of being mourned.
Admiral Beez
Major
IDK. Whoever honours the fallen Einsatzgruppen may be considered among the wrong.
Warspite63
Senior Airman
- 449
- Dec 8, 2022
Well said. I hold the same reservations ... those who fall after fighting with honour deserve respect as 'decent' combatants. I'm sure Russians dead are amongst them. But this war has shown a LOT of instances where the behaviour of the Russian forces has been thuggish, depraved, immoral and inhuman. Those perpetrating such acts can rot, as far as I'm concerned
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
Rheinmetall wants to build a tank factory in Ukraine (Spiegel).
Original and Google translated.
www.spiegel.de
www-spiegel-de.translate.goog
Original and Google translated.
Rheinmetall will Panzerfabrik in der Ukraine aufbauen
Die westlichen Verbündeten kratzen seit Monaten mühsam Panzer für die Ukraine zusammen – doch das Land braucht wohl noch Hunderte. Nun verhandelt Rheinmetall mit Kiew über den Aufbau einer eigenen Panther-Fertigung.
Rheinmetall will Panzerfabrik in der Ukraine aufbauen
Die westlichen Verbündeten kratzen seit Monaten mühsam Panzer für die Ukraine zusammen – doch das Land braucht wohl noch Hunderte. Nun verhandelt Rheinmetall mit Kiew über den Aufbau einer eigenen Panther-Fertigung.
'Pincers are closing': Ukrainian forces under pressure as Russians shell roads out of Bakhmut
A Russian victory in Bakhmut, with a pre-war population of about 70,000, would give it its first major prize in a costly winter offensive, after it called up hundreds of thousands of reservists last year.
www.abc.net.au
SYPAQ supporting Ukrainian armed forces - APDR
SYPAQ Systems announced it is delivering sovereign Australian autonomous systems to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces thanks to investment from the Department of Defence.
asiapacificdefencereporter.com
Crowd laughs as Russia's foreign minister claims Ukraine war 'was launched against us'
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov provokes laughter after referring to the invasion of Ukraine as "the war which was launched against us" during a diplomatic forum in India.
www.abc.net.au
Snautzer01
Honourably banned
- 42,447
- Mar 26, 2007
Fixed it.
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
You forgot the big bushy eyebrows but then that would be insulting real clowns
Glider
Captain
I think we all knew that it was only a matter of time once Russia started its 1914 assault without any regard to the cost in Human lives. Ukraine have done remarkably well and seems to have even got the respect of the Wagner Group head.
'Pincers are closing': Ukrainian forces under pressure as Russians shell roads out of Bakhmut
A Russian victory in Bakhmut, with a pre-war population of about 70,000, would give it its first major prize in a costly winter offensive, after it called up hundreds of thousands of reservists last year.
The cost to Russia must have been prodigious and cannot be repeated across the country as Russia simply doesn't have the people to waste. Absolute respect to those that took part in the defence and in particular, those who were killed and wounded and their loved ones.
Warspite63
Senior Airman
- 449
- Dec 8, 2022
He's full of crap
Crowd laughs as Russia's foreign minister claims Ukraine war 'was launched against us'
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov provokes laughter after referring to the invasion of Ukraine as "the war which was launched against us" during a diplomatic forum in India.
He knows he's full of crap
The audience knows he's full of crap
He knows the audience knows he's full of crap
And yet he persists
I almost feel sorry for Sergei. Almost .... but not quite
Glider
Captain
If he didn't persist he might take up that new sport, free fall for beginners
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Yep, falling up several flights of stairs and then out a window is the alternative to his clown-show presentation.
Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
North section of Bakhmut now looking critical. Russian advance now of depth and width that they can move forward without worrying about their left flank.
There were some partially successful local Ukrainian counterattacks on the south side in the past 24 hours, but they only gained a kilometer or a little over in a couple of places. If I was a pessimist, I'd say these attacks are focused on securing control of the southern highway, ensuring there is an exit route for a withdrawal. Plus, the Ukranians have been destroying bridges in the eastern and western sections of the city.
Losing the city would hurt Ukraine from a symbolic point of view, but Bakhmut doesn't appear to be that critical in terms of the defense of overall front and grand strategy.
The battle for city has been costly to both sides, but given that Russia has been assaulting the city for close to 10 months at this point and it's been the main target of the winter offensive this year, I'd say the defenders have given WAY better than they've gotten.
What will be interesting is any subsequent maneuvering. Even if there's a Ukrainian pull out I doubt that Wagner and Russian forces in the area are in any shape to advance rapidly. Plus, there are a couple of natural and urban features in the area that make for obvious new defensive lines.
There were some partially successful local Ukrainian counterattacks on the south side in the past 24 hours, but they only gained a kilometer or a little over in a couple of places. If I was a pessimist, I'd say these attacks are focused on securing control of the southern highway, ensuring there is an exit route for a withdrawal. Plus, the Ukranians have been destroying bridges in the eastern and western sections of the city.
Losing the city would hurt Ukraine from a symbolic point of view, but Bakhmut doesn't appear to be that critical in terms of the defense of overall front and grand strategy.
The battle for city has been costly to both sides, but given that Russia has been assaulting the city for close to 10 months at this point and it's been the main target of the winter offensive this year, I'd say the defenders have given WAY better than they've gotten.
What will be interesting is any subsequent maneuvering. Even if there's a Ukrainian pull out I doubt that Wagner and Russian forces in the area are in any shape to advance rapidly. Plus, there are a couple of natural and urban features in the area that make for obvious new defensive lines.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Right. The Ukrainians are already fortifying/entrenching west of the town. The blowing of the bridges tells the tale: the Ukrainians are working to slow down any potential Russian follow-up. The Russians will get a big victory story for their own media, but still likely be embogged in defensive positions and not see any breakthrough.
