Admiral Beez
Major
I wonder in this time of increasingly inexpensive, accurate long-range tube-launched rocket artillery, if the day of maintenance-hungry rifled artillery is coming to a close.
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Only if you plan on using Swiss weapons.
Admiral Beez
Major
Ukranian MiG-29s are now JDAM equipped! First it's HARMS, and now this. That's one versatile aircraft. And this JDAM deployment suggests that Ukraine has a good number of strike aircraft remaining, one year into this war - demonstrating yet again Russia's failure to gain air superiority.
eurasiantimes.com
I like to think that Ukraine-born Mikhail Gurevich, along with his Armenia-born partner Artem Mikoyan are posthumously looking down on their namesake fighter with pride. Granted their last personal touch was the MiG-25, but their legacy carried onto the -29.
Ukraine 'Unleashes' US-Made JDAM Smart Bomb For The Very 1st Time; Aims To Integrate With MiG-29 Fighters
Ukraine is believed to have dropped a US-delivered Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) smart bomb on Russian-held territory, at a time when the United States is studying how it could equip its advanced AIM-120 Air-to-Air missile on Soviet legacy fighter jets.
eurasiantimes.com
I like to think that Ukraine-born Mikhail Gurevich, along with his Armenia-born partner Artem Mikoyan are posthumously looking down on their namesake fighter with pride. Granted their last personal touch was the MiG-25, but their legacy carried onto the -29.
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I was thinking about that this morning. JDAM-ERs on Su-24s. AGM-88s on Mig-29s.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Apparently half of Russian artillery has worn out and there are piles of artillery not repaired due to lack of parts.
View: https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1634949464392888320
Source (auto translated)
Половина артиллерии РФ уже непригодна к ведению боев, - Наливайченко
Валентин Наливайченко, нардеп Украины, бывший глава Службы безопасности Украины, считает, что износ артиллерийских российских стволов достигает почти половины 9 марта, 2023ru-espreso-tv.translate.goog
When your target is an entire city, worn barrels aren't too much of a problem.
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
No matter how we slice it, you're pretty good at punnery.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
"The can of worms you ordered, monsieur."
Glider
Major
Good thought. I like the amount of research that S Korea did before starting the designI'm wondering if Hyundai's K2 Panther order from Poland has got Rheinmetall worried that their near monopoly on MBTs in eastern Europe is coming to an end, pushing them to make offers to Ukraine.
Rheinmetall in talks on building tank factory in Ukraine - report
German defence contractor Rheinmetall is in negotiations about building a tank factory in Ukraine, the newspaper Rheinische Post reported on Saturday, citing an interview with CEO Armin Papperger.www.reuters.com
German-Arms Maker Rheinmetall Offers Ukraine Its New Panther KF51 Tank
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Interesting that both Hyundai and Rheinmetall are making tanks named Panther. Was Hyundai's named after a Marvel movie?
K2 Black Panther - Wikipedia
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Panther KF51 - Wikipedia
I bet the share price of Swiss arms manufacturers will plummet even further
fubar57
General
F-16s will 'eventually' be sent to Ukraine, former U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff chair says | CBC News
Mike Mullen, a retired admiral who served as chair of the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff, says he expects Western countries will eventually send fighter jets to Ukraine.
.....and on it goes
fubar57
General
Police in Moldova say they've foiled a Russia-backed plot to create 'mass disorder' | CBC News
Police in Moldova said they foiled a plot by groups of Russia-backed actors who were trained to cause mass unrest during a Sunday protest against the country's new pro-Western government. Seven people were detained.
Jabberwocky
Tech Sergeant
Modern tube artillery systems have an advantage in terms of cost per (precision) strike and versatility of ammunition. Even with precision 155mm shells priced at anywhere from $25,000 to $110,000, they're usually cheaper than any equivalent rocket/missile system. Excalibur, SADARM/SMArt, Bonus and Vulcano have all been used with notable success against Russian armour in Ukraine.
Ukraine is also getting M1156 precision guidance kits, which turn a bog standard 155m round into a GPS guided round for less than $20,000 per shell.
Plus, some of the modern guided rounds have VERY long range. Bonus and SMArt have already hit targets in Ukraine out beyond 25km (probably longer). Raytheon claims 50km plus for Excalibur. Leonardo is claiming anywhere from 45-70km for the Vulcano family.
Experience in Ukraine shows tube artillery is not going anywhere.
BAE announced in October that it was looking at restarting M777 production, based on the success of the weapon in Ukraine and inquiries from a number of countries. Only problem is that it will take 2-3 years before the line can start putting out production pieces again.
manta22
Banned
This is reminding me of our Kaserne in Babenhausen in the early '60s. We had two types of artillery units stationed there, a Corporal IIB guided missile and a 105mm tube artillery unit. Naturally, there was a rivalry between these two units. They had, in fact, two distinctly different missions.
The guns could be deployed very quickly and each gun could fire multiple rounds in a very short period of time. Their range was relatively short and their round contained only a moderate explosive charge. A battalion had lots of guns, though!
The Corporal missile was the first guided missile that the US ever deployed in the field so it was primitive by today's standards- liquid fuel, a very complex tube-type guidance system, etc. It took time to get the system set up but it could deliver a conventional HE warhead or a nuclear warhead 80 miles- at least that was the public story . Once we fired our basic load of missiles we were done and all of us became riflemen.
Weapon systems have made great strides since those Cold War days!
hawkeye2an
Staff Sergeant
Built for Deer hunting?
Admiral Beez
Major
Or defending Switzerland?
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RogerdeLluria
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"A couple of years from now, Russia may well be number three, maybe even number four" in global military exports
www.newsweek.com
And, someone has to take the second prize.
www.theguardian.com
Russia's arms export industry is collapsing
Russian military exports fell by nearly one-third over the last five years, and the long-term picture looks bleak for Moscow.
www.newsweek.com
And, someone has to take the second prize.
France challenging Russia as second biggest arms exporter behind US
Study shows French suppliers have more major export orders than Russia, while UK’s share has dwindled
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RogerdeLluria
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Meanwhile in Russia
www.forbes.com
The Russian Army Is Running Out Of T-72 Tanks—And Quickly
The worsening T-72 shortfall helps to explain why the Russians increasingly are equipping their newly-mobilized battalions with obsolete T-62 and T-80B tanks.
www.forbes.com
Glider
Major
How long before China steps into the second place supplier. My guess would be about six to nine months"A couple of years from now, Russia may well be number three, maybe even number four" in global military exports
Russia's arms export industry is collapsing
Russian military exports fell by nearly one-third over the last five years, and the long-term picture looks bleak for Moscow.
And, someone has to take the second prize.
France challenging Russia as second biggest arms exporter behind US
Study shows French suppliers have more major export orders than Russia, while UK’s share has dwindled
