Admiral Beez
Major
T-55 vs. Leopard 2? Yeah, that's going to go well.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7FUjVHx46c
Challenger passing T-55. Look at the size.
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On a lighter note. Soup-centricity is important in air defence
"They like soup. They're very, you know, soup-centric"
‘Absolutely a quick study’: Ukrainians master Patriot system faster than expected
“They are the best of the best in what they do in air defense for Ukraine," a U.S. general said.www.politico.com
The Bradley with its AT missile and the AMX10RC would be more than capable of taking on a T55 or T62 but they are also vulnerable to the tanks. The huge advantage would be the far better sensors and night vision on the modern equipmentGoing back to the t54/55.
I'm wondering if Bradleys, CV90s and AMX-10s are good enough to deal with them easily.
They've got a level of motivation that peace-time soldiers don't.I said a long while back the Ukrainians would master western weapons far faster than the experts thought possible - as this clip shows I was right - about 8 weeks instead of 52. I still expect western aircraft to be mastered far faster as well.
When the Pentagon announced in January that the Ukrainians would begin their training in Fort Sill, officials cautioned that the instruction could take months — even up to a year. But U.S. military officials here said the Ukrainians, who were already experienced air defenders when they arrived in January and were handpicked by Kyiv to complete the instruction, mastered the American system much faster than expected.
Now, they are just about ready to use it on the battlefield to protect Ukrainian cities and infrastructure from Russian attacks.
The main mission of both is not tank engagement.The Bradley with its AT missile and the AMX10RC would be more than capable of taking on a T55 or T62 but they are also vulnerable to the tanks. The huge advantage would be the far better sensors and night vision on the modern equipment
They've got a level of motivation that peace-time soldiers don't.
Going back to the t54/55.
I'm wondering if Bradleys, CV90s and AMX-10s are good enough to deal with them easily.
Speaking of 105mm rounds, thoughts on the ex-Slovenian M-55 and its L7 gun vs. a worked over Russian T-55?French 105mm HEAT ammunition should be able to get through the frontal turret armour of pretty much any T-54/55 variant,
French 105mm F3 APFSDS should also be good to get through anywhere on the turret, although exact penetration data is hard to find.
Speaking of 105mm rounds, thoughts on the ex-Slovenian M-55 and its L7 gun vs. a worked over Russian T-55?
Mick Ryan is always a good read.Relevant in terms of the bigger strategic picture:
Why Xi Jinping wants the West to watch Russia rather than China
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I am late to this party. All my manuals are packed away. The above post sounds correct. As a old tanker, I can tell you that even upgraded, the T55, T62, and some versions of the T72 is no match for either the modern 105 or 120 mm rounds. The only reason to use them if that is all you can afford and it's going against other tanks from the same generation. Same as our M48 and M60 models. Really pushing it with the M60A3. All you have to do is look at the Gulf War.Depends on the rounds being fired, but almost any APFSDS made in the West since roughly the mid 1980s it should have no problems penetrating any T-55. Exception would be a couple of zones of invulnerability for deeply modernised versions with the applique armour, or versions with applique armour AND Kontact1 ERA.
European tungsten alloy long rod penetrators of the time (DM33, NP 105 and similar) were generally rated at better than 400mm of penetration at 2000m and 450-470 plus at the muzzle. Later rounds (early 1990s onwards) bumped this up over 500mm.
EDIT: Looks like IMI/Elbit Systems were/are supplying ammunition for the Slovenian M-55s. So, it's likely that any AFPSDS round is going to be the M426/Hetz-10 3rd generation round or the even more modern SWORD-T fourth generation round. M426 has been in production since the early 1990s is rated at more than 470mm at 2000m.