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MiTasol said:
Civil turbine engines often do water washes to remove salt (and other contaminants) and these are done much more often if operating over salt water so I presume that Navy's do this at regular intervals even if the aircraft has not flown.
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So do military turbines. In the Army we did them every certain number of hours, even when we were not operating in salt water environments.
 
Jabberwocky said:
Heavy fighting and rapid advances by Ukraine northwest and southwest of Bakhmut over the last 72 hours.

In the north, Russian units appear to be abandoning forward positions from their salient which they had developed in the last four to five weeks, expanding out from the highway. Reports are that Russian units are withdrawing as much as 15km, back to better established positions located forward of the main north-south rail line.

In the south, Ukrainian forces have breached a Russian defensive line set up along a canal and have engaged Russian forces in the villages along the same north-south rail line. Advances beyond 5km being reported. there are a substantial number of Ukrainian units identified as operating in the area, including at least one of the new 'assault' brigades.

Immediately in front of Bakhmut, Ukrainian forces look to have advanced right back up to the outskirts of the city and taken anchoring/blocking positions.
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I wonder if they've chosen the "small solution"?
 
I hope you can see this images in fullsize there
www.heise.de

Ukraine: Satellitenbilder zeigen verheerende Überschwemmungen nach Dammbruch

Wenige Tage nach der Zerstörung des Staudamms im Süden der Ukraine zeigen verschiedentliche Satellitenaufnahmen die verheerenden Fluten. Das Ausmaß ist immens.
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the current dam status is
everything left of the machine/turbine house is gone approximately to the point the image cuts off, further sections start to collapse with their foundations been washed-out
everything right of the machine/turbine house is gone approximately to the water lock tower
Of the machine/turbine house only the two rightmost sections are still standing, the following one is gone and of the leftmost section about one half is still standing
the image of June 3rd (with the road section already gone) shows a strange water flow pattern, not straight (=following the river line) but slightly towards the machine/turbine house
 
michaelmaltby said:
There are 2 prescidents:
1. The Germans flooding the Schelde, Holland, 1944
2. The Chinese breaking the Yellow River levee, 1937, to deny the Japanese access. 800,000 casualties is conservative death toll. Levee not restored till 1947.
The strategy was recommended by Chang Kai shek's GERMAN military advisor.
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Don't forget:

3. Soviets blowing Dnipro Dam (Dnieper Hydroelectric Station - Wikipedia) in an attempt to slow the advance of Nazi German troops in 1941.
It is believed that as many as 100,000 Ukrainians died. There where also several thousand death among the Red Army Personnel. It barely caused any damage to the Germans, other than a delay. It is reported that the NKVD team used almost 20 tons of explosives to tear a 165-meter-long breach in the dam.

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But that is not all ....

- Germans rebuilt Dnipro Dam in 1942

4. Germans partially blowing Dnipro Dam again in their retreat in 1943. Apparently with little consequences.
 

Ukraine has conducted counteroffensive operations with differential outcomes in at least three sectors of the front as part of wider counteroffensive efforts that have been unfolding since Sunday, June 4. Ukrainian officials signaled that Ukrainian forces have transitioned from defensive to offensive operations in the Bakhmut sector and are making gains of between 200 meters and nearly two kilometers on the flanks of the city.[1] Ukrainian forces have made tactical gains during limited localized counterattacks in western Donetsk Oblast near the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border since June 4.[2] Ukrainian forces additionally conducted an attack in western Zaporizhia Oblast on the night of June 7 to 8 but do not appear to have made gains as part of this attack as of the time of this publication.

Ukrainian forces conducted a limited but still significant attack in western Zaporizhia Oblast on the night of June 7 to 8. Russian forces apparently defended against this attack in a doctrinally sound manner and had reportedly regained their initial positions as of June 8. Russian sources began reporting late at night on June 7 that elements of Ukrainian brigades that have recently been equipped with Western kit launched an attack southwest of Orikhiv in western Zaporizhia Oblast.[3] Several Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces attacked along the Mala Tokmachka-Polohy line with the aim of breaking through the Russian defensive line between Robotyne and Verbove (both about 15km southeast of Orikhiv).[4] Russian sources acknowledged that Ukrainian forces broke through the first line of defense in this area, held by elements of the 291st and 70th Motorized Rifle Regiments (42nd Motorized Rifle Division, 58th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District) and the 22nd and 45th Separate Guards Special Purpose (GRU) Brigades, but reported that these Russian elements succeeded in counterattacking and eventually pushing Ukrainian forces back to their original positions.[5] Available geolocated combat footage suggests that limited Ukrainian forces crossed the N08 Polohy-Voskresenka highway, but Russian sourcing indicates that Russian forces likely pushed Ukrainians back in the Orikhiv direction towards the frontline and regained the lost positions.[6]

Ukrainian forces also reportedly lost Western-provided vehicles on June 8.[7] Losses are inevitable during any military undertaking. Ukrainian forces will suffer losses, including of both Western and Soviet equipment, during any offensive operations. Western equipment is not impervious to damage any more than the equipment that the Ukrainians have been using and losing since February 2022. The loss of equipment — including Western equipment — early on in the counteroffensive is not an indicator of the future progress of Ukraine's counteroffensive. It is important not to exaggerate the impact of initial losses of Western or any other equipment, particularly in penetration battles against prepared defensive positions.

Institute for the Study of War

This page collects ISW and CTP's updates on the conflict in Ukraine. In late February 2022, ISW began publishing daily synthetic products covering key events related to renewed Russian aggression against Ukraine.
www.understandingwar.org www.understandingwar.org
 
Jabberwocky said:
Lots of Ukrainian blogs/social media accounts reporting 'something big' happening in the next 24 hours....

A number of the more reputable sources are being conspicuously silent. It's 8:15 AM in Kyiv at the moment....
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24 hours later... Hows that worked out then....? :rolleyes:
 
fubar57 said:
"something big" is happening
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Movement towards something big, perhaps.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end.
But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

― Winston S. Churchill, Their Finest Hour

"Footage from north and south of the city of Bakhmut, scene of one of the longest and bloodiest battles of the war, appeared to show Ukrainian forces moving forward.

Ms Malyar said they had advanced "from 200 to 1,100 metres in various sections," in what may eventually be an effort to encircle the city and trap its Russian occupiers.

It is, as the UK's Ministry of Defence noted, "a highly complex operational picture". But does it mean that Ukraine's counter-offensive is already entering a dramatic new phase? On Wednesday, Oleksiy Danilov, Secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council, scoffed at the idea.
"All of this is not true," he told Reuters. "When we start the counter-offensive, everyone will know about it. They will see it."

www.bbc.co.uk

Ukraine's counter-offensive against Russia under way

It's been talked of for months, now it looks like Ukraine is finally launching its plan to recapture land.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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