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"The first joint project, to be announced at the DSEI trade show in London tomorrow (Thursday), is an advanced new air defence interceptor drone, named Project OCTOPUS, which will be mass produced in the UK, with a target to produce thousands per month..."
Flying Octopus, why not? :cool:
When is Ukraine gonna' name one of these things "Debris"?
 

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The Russians obviously designed this for attacking schools and churches and similar "military" targets. Short barrel large bore = wide dispersion = high levels of damage to undefended soft targets.
 


This requires a simple FAFO response so I think that Poland, and other NATO members that are on the receiving end of Russian aerial weapons, response to these drones and missiles should be very very simple.

Using their own or NATO weapons destroy the nearest Russian fixed military assets to the launch site of each and every one of those drones and missiles. We know that it is a waste of time to attack the actual launch sites in most cases as the launchers are mobile and long gone before the drone/missile crosses the Polish border.

In the case of air launched missiles the target, obviously, should be the launch aircraft itself or its operating base.

Because Russia cannot prevent or afford the loss of those military assets I strongly suspect one night of that response would stop most of the Russian activities against Poland.
 
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I agree. Because he is right that each NATO member is, at present, only thinking of themselves instead of every member, I think it is doubly important for Poland to destroy Russian assets in response to Russias drones and missiles. I would possibly also add one civilian target though. Any destroyed FSB headquarters close to a launch site would possibly encourage more FSB activities against the Russian military.
 
This requires a simple FAFO response so I think that Poland, and other NATO members that are on the receiving end of Russian aerial weapons, response to these drones and missiles should be very very simple.

Using their own or NATO weapons destroy the nearest Russian fixed military assets to the launch site of each and every one of those drones and missiles. We know that it is a waste of time to attack the actual launch sites in most cases as the launchers are mobile and long gone before the drone/missile crosses the Polish border.

In the case of air launched missiles the target, obviously, should be the launch aircraft itself or its operating base.

Because Russia cannot prevent or afford the loss of those military assets I strongly suspect one night of that response would stop most of the Russian activities against Poland.
My idea is to launch a few hundred dummy drones at Russia. Each will have the message "stop sending drones over NATO" printed on them.
 

A brilliant move by Putin was to offer huge signing bonuses to join the army, thus enabling a massive troop expansion without another call up. And since these new troops are essentially mercenaries signing up for life-changingly large cash incentives, there's a lot less societal protest when they die or are wounded vs. conscripts pulled off the street. Through this, notwithstanding one million casualties so far, Putin is able to field an army today that's larger (in troops, not AFVs) than that of Feb 2022, enabling Russia to continue incremental territorial gains throughout 2025. Meanwhile Ukraine is fighting with essentially the same exact men from 2023 to today, which must be exhausting. Of course Putin is ripping the demographic and economic heart out of Russia's future.
 
That would only cheer Putin up as that is another "let us not escalate" response. Bullies like him only stop when they have received a good punch in the face or kick in their soft tissues.

Right, never telegraph your punch. Decide to punch, punch again, and if he's still standing punch until he isn't. Some people only understand main force. Putin's one of those people.
 
Let the shilly-shally begin:


President Trump on Thursday brushed off Russian drones that flew into Poland's airspace earlier this week as a possible mistake, while European leaders have described it as an intentional provocation by Moscow.

"Could have been a mistake. Could have been a mistake," Trump told reporters as he left the White House for New York City. "But regardless, I'm not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation. But hopefully it's going to come to an end."


 

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