Are you or have you ever been in the Armed Forces?

FLYBOYJ · Jun 7, 2005

Thats why its easier to just bomb em

Nonskimmer · Jun 7, 2005

No sir. I...am a submariner!

Medvedya · Jun 7, 2005

Or

".....but do you think this new look really suits you?"

Nonskimmer · Jun 7, 2005

No, that's how the wives look all the time.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 8, 2005

Try spending 4 hours or more in your MOP suit. It sucks, especially when you have to sleep in it.

lesofprimus · Jun 8, 2005

I hate MOP suits...... Period...

evangilder · Jun 8, 2005

Me too! It wasn't uncommon for us to spend 12 hours at a stretch in them when we were doing NATO exercises in England. Just the thought of that mask is enough to make me feel shortness of breath! UGH!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 9, 2005

I remember being in the field during Basic Training and having to carry "wounded" comrads out of the danger zone and getting gassed by CS gas. It sucked and then having to carry them on your shoulder and run while in MOP suit. It really SUCKED!!!!

trackend · Jun 9, 2005

I assuming looking at it guys its the same as NBC gear?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 9, 2005

MOP suit is NBC gear.

trackend · Jun 9, 2005

I thought it was Adler Ive only ever known it as NBC cheers.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 9, 2005

To be honest with you I dont know why we call it MOP Gear.

evangilder · Jun 9, 2005

I forget what the acronym stands for. I think it was actually MOPP. Then we had different MOPP conditions. MOPP1-4, if memory serves correctly.

evangilder · Jun 9, 2005

Yes, it was MOPP, Mission Oriented Protective Procedure. How's that for a mouthful. Anyway, here is a link that describes the MOPP:

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/mopp/mopp_s01.htm

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 9, 2005

Thats right my bad. I sould have know that. It actually goes from MOPP-0 to MOPP-4 I believe. MOPP-0 being regular duty uniform. MOPP_4 in complete NBC gear because an NBC attack has occured or is about to happen.

evangilder · Jun 9, 2005

Yep. It's been so long I had forgotten the levels, but I remember a MOPP level board that was in our barracks.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 9, 2005

Yeah we have them posted and we have to drill with them in the field. I hate flying at MOPP-4!

Medvedya · Jun 9, 2005

How do you man the guns if the doors are shut?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jun 10, 2005

We dont. In a combat environment the windows are always open. The cargo doors can be closed because the guns are mounted on pintal mounts in the crew chiefs sliding windows. In Iraq we flew around for the whole year with windows open and the guns out. In Kosovo we had the guns mounted but stowed inside and we flew with the windows shut. Here in Germany we dont even mount the guns and we fly with the windows shut.

lesofprimus · Jun 10, 2005

Not many bad guys to shoot at in Germany, is there?

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