Best Fighter

[cheddar cheese]

The P-38 still gets my vote then. It could out dive and out climb Zero's, and while i do not have any current evidence, i have read a couple of pilot accounts where they have said the P-38 and turned inside the Zero. It was also extremly good at performing its many roles, and as far as I know it was the only American fighter in service throughout the whole of the time America were in the war 8)

 

[evangilder]

Yes, CC, that is correct, The P-38 was the only American fighter in production before, and continually throughout the war. Later models of P-38 could turn inside the Zero. The earlier models probably would not have been able to. The J and L models introduced a host of modifications that made it manuever better. Alot of innovations were introduced with the P-38.

But it was not an easy plane to work on. I still stand by the Hellcat.
My $.02

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i was under the impression that it could only out turn the zero at high speeds when the zero wasn't as nimble, i doubt it could turn inside it at low speed..................

 

[cheddar cheese]

lanc, it wasnt long ago that you said:

"No plane in the war could turn inside a Zero"

Dont deny you said that, cos we had a heate debate about it, you challenged me to find evidence...




The P-38 was a great recce plane too 8)

I can understand why you are going with the Hellcat though 8) But I just think the P-38 has the edge...

 

[evangilder]

The P-38 was a great plane, I agree. I just think the Hellcat was a bit better. I will give you that with 2 engines, the P-38 had an edge with survivability. Nothing like redundancy for safety!

 

[cheddar cheese]

A fair share of aces also flew P-38's.

 

[lesofprimus]

CC, you change ur mind so damn often it aint even funny.... U said in earlier posts atleast 3 times that the Hurricane was ur pick.. Now its the -38....

Evan, you had stated in a previous post that the -152 was ur pick, but I can see why u changed to the Hellcat, as it is one of my favorites... But for the Hellcat in aerial combat, it was the group tactics, such as the Thatch Weave, that made the Hellcat so formidable... Plus the opposition that the Hellcat faced in the air, pilotwise, was greatly diminished...

For me the Ta-152 was and is the plane to beat... As my combined survey results show....

10 votes Ta-152H... (lesofprimus, erich, kiwimac, aussiejim, patc007, jamcam, sodenstrike, planeguy, polish, gregp)
6 votes P-51D Mustang (Pland, GrG, birdman, ahanswurst, sanantoniobob, guest)
3 votes Spit MkXIV... (johnnie, gemhorse, hotspace)
3 votes F4U-4 Corsair... (archer, corpasselberry, thorlittle)
2 votes Mossie... (lanc, bronzewhaler)
2 votes P-38L... (LG, CC)
1 vote Spit MkIX... (maestro)


Until Lanc explains his change in heart, his vote stands on the Mossie....

 

[cheddar cheese]

I wasnt informed of the P-38 back then though Les...

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

The P-38 was a great recce plane too

but not as good as the mossie, and before you say the P-38 was better, the americans bought mossies for the role, so they obviously thought the mossie was better for recon than the P-38....................

 

[cheddar cheese]

Still pretty damn good though.

However, recce isnt fighting, so lets move on.

 

[evangilder]

I don't recall voting for the -152, but if you said I did, I might have. But I am sticking with the Hellcat because of it's ruggedness and ease of maintenance. I won't change now, I promise.

 

[lesofprimus]

Ok once again updated....

10 votes Ta-152H... (lesofprimus, erich, kiwimac, aussiejim, patc007, jamcam, sodenstrike, planeguy, polish, gregp)
6 votes P-51D Mustang (Pland, GrG, birdman, ahanswurst, sanantoniobob, guest)
3 votes Spit MkXIV... (johnnie, gemhorse, hotspace)
3 votes F4U-4 Corsair... (archer, corpasselberry, thorlittle)
2 votes Mossie... (lanc, bronzewhaler)
2 votes P-38L... (LG, CC)
1 vote Spit MkIX... (maestro)
1 vote F6F Hellcat... (erich)

 

[MichaelHenley]

What does the Ta-152H Look like? I've never even heard of it.

 

[JCS]

Heres the Ta-152:

http://www.luftwaffepics.com/lta1521.htm

And I'm going to go with the 152 also.

 

[MichaelHenley]

What's the difference between that and the Fw-190?

 

[lesofprimus]

Ok once again updated....

11 votes Ta-152H... (lesofprimus, JCS, erich, kiwimac, aussiejim, patc007, jamcam, sodenstrike, planeguy, polish, gregp)
6 votes P-51D Mustang... (Pland, GrG, birdman, ahanswurst, sanantoniobob, guest)
3 votes Spit MkXIV... (johnnie, gemhorse, hotspace)
3 votes F4U-4 Corsair... (archer, corpasselberry, thorlittle)
2 votes Mossie... (lanc, bronzewhaler)
2 votes P-38L... (LG, CC)
1 vote Spit MkIX... (maestro)
1 vote F6F Hellcat... (erich)

 

[evangilder]

Add my vote to the Hellcat tally(Erich is listed for both the TA and the hellcat, by the way). It is an interesting roundup of planes. I would have thought the spit would have been ahead of the mustang in the voting.

 

[NightHawk]

hmm i dont know if to vote for the mustang or for the spit,

 

[lesofprimus]

My mistake evan.... The totals have been fixed..... Im not surprised the P-51 is ahead of the Spit... I think it was a better plane anyways....

11 votes Ta-152H... (lesofprimus, JCS, erich, kiwimac, aussiejim, patc007, jamcam, sodenstrike, planeguy, polish, gregp)
6 votes P-51D Mustang... (Pland, GrG, birdman, ahanswurst, sanantoniobob, guest)
3 votes Spit MkXIV... (johnnie, gemhorse, hotspace)
3 votes F4U-4 Corsair... (archer, corpasselberry, thorlittle)
2 votes Mossie... (lanc, bronzewhaler)
2 votes P-38L... (LG, CC)
1 vote Spit MkIX... (maestro)
1 vote F6F Hellcat... (evangilder)

 

[MichaelHenley]

I gotta bring this even, so i'll vote the spit.
Did eric spam vote ?