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Major General
oh dear 
i still like it though 8)
i still like it though 8)
Best Jet of WW2?
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Erich
the old Sage
As a recon machine it was one of the best and that was it's primary intention..........as quoted by FAGr 5 pilots that lost their Ju 290A's and formed a very small staffel of Arado's in March-April of 45.
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Major General
of course! i forgot it was used for recon too
Erich
the old Sage
a couple of missions in fact were flown over the Normandie beachhead.........
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it made a beter recon plane than a bomber............
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Major General
wow cool 8)
Erich
the old Sage
without a doubt Lanc and it also gave US P-51 pilots much frustration. Friend Don Bryan in a lengthy interview told me of just this type of frustration diving on three of the twin engine jobs in his P-51 on three seperate missions and only on another occassion did he get "his" jet. The Arado was flying ahead and below him and he dove on it as the jet was making a bomb run on the Remagen bridge, but the jet pilot made the error by going under the bridge and then climbing and turning hoping he could make the clouds, but Don cut him off turning some pretty incredible G's to close the gap and then he ripped the jets engine's to shreds while flying almost upside down. don is still living and quite a character of the 352nd fighter group, the blue-nosers of which I am a friend.............
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Major General
cool 
youre gonna be great to have around
youre gonna be great to have around
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so how do you know these people??
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Major General
he helps collect information or books, am i right?
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Major General
*for
Erich
the old Sage
laughing icon extreme !Guys I have been doing this since the early 1960's when I was in the 6th grade. I had an uncle serve as a lt. colonel in the US Air Force in Wiesbaden. things developed since he was in a flying club with former German Luftwaffe perosnell such as Erich hartmann, The Prinz Krupinski, Günther Rall and others. He became friends of course chatting about the old days and modern flying techniques while flying bi-plane trainers and gliders; gliders was my uncles love when he returned to the staes in the 1970's. anyway he got me in touch with several veterans and this developed as I got older interviewing local veterans in the US air Force. two good friends now deceased served in the German Heer on the Ost front.
all came together as I approached college and my interests grew even further as my "GErman" relatives wished me wwell and told me of two relatives on my mothers side that served in the day and night fighter forces. Both killed in action.
as I pursued more data into my data bases I became a member of the US 339th, 352nd and 355th fighter groups as well as the now defunct US night fighter association. I keep in touch with several US fighter pilot vets of these groups. In addition I have interviewed over 50 US bomber crewmen of the 8th, 9th and 15th air forces. 1 particular friend was a pilot of a B-26 in the 394th bomb group and remains one of my best customers. another P-51 pilot friend served in the Pacific with the US 8th photo recon, first lflying un-armed and unarmored P-38's on high altitude recon.
and not to drag this out too long but I am personal friends with at least 5 former German ngiht fighter pilots, 3 of them I keep in close contact by email. with the many associations I have been involved with the last 15 years I have quite a large German Luftwaffe adresse base............
cheers friends ! 8)
Erich
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Major General
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that's cheap spam, you know as well as i do there's a edit button on your last posts you could've used..............
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Major General
who edits their posts
and erich, you lucky sod
and erich, you lucky sod
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as a mod usrely you should be setting an example.............
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*surely..............
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Major General
oh ha ha most of the people on the site are accurate typists though so ha 8)
most of the people on the site are accurate typists though so ha 8)
GermansRGeniuses
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Erich, do you live in CA? Because if my information is correct, there is a German Veterans club fairly close to where I live...Erich said:
Guys I have been doing this since the early 1960's when I was in the 6th grade. I had an uncle serve as a lt. colonel in the US Air Force in Wiesbaden. things developed since he was in a flying club with former German Luftwaffe perosnell such as Erich hartmann, The Prinz Krupinski, Günther Rall and others. He became friends of course chatting about the old days and modern flying techniques while flying bi-plane trainers and gliders; gliders was my uncles love when he returned to the staes in the 1970's. anyway he got me in touch with several veterans and this developed as I got older interviewing local veterans in the US air Force. two good friends now deceased served in the German Heer on the Ost front.
all came together as I approached college and my interests grew even further as my "GErman" relatives wished me wwell and told me of two relatives on my mothers side that served in the day and night fighter forces. Both killed in action.
as I pursued more data into my data bases I became a member of the US 339th, 352nd and 355th fighter groups as well as the now defunct US night fighter association. I keep in touch with several US fighter pilot vets of these groups. In addition I have interviewed over 50 US bomber crewmen of the 8th, 9th and 15th air forces. 1 particular friend was a pilot of a B-26 in the 394th bomb group and remains one of my best customers. another P-51 pilot friend served in the Pacific with the US 8th photo recon, first lflying un-armed and unarmored P-38's on high altitude recon.
and not to drag this out too long but I am personal friends with at least 5 former German ngiht fighter pilots, 3 of them I keep in close contact by email. with the many associations I have been involved with the last 15 years I have quite a large German Luftwaffe adresse base............
cheers friends ! 8)
Erich
Oh, und wilkommen! (Ich nur spreche kaum Deutsch)
Erich
the old Sage
vielen Dank GrG. bist du Deutsch ?
I am aware of an American aces group that meets in southern California about twice a year, but not the German vets group. Could you send me a private on this bitte ?
I live in southern Oregon actually.
Are you familiar with the Me 262 recon a/c on display at Chino airprot, California. About two years ago friend Hans Busch had a mini seminar in his time with KG 51 and his bombing days flying the Me 262A-2. About 350 of us were present an drooled over the wonderful 262 as it was pulled out of it's narrow waiting area onto the Tarmac. On the other side of the barrier wall sat 3 gorgeous P-51's and across the field was a wonderful B-25. A great time especially after the attendance left and around 5pm Hans got a chance to sit in the cockpit of the Chino warbird and gave us (about 6 of us) a full flight description and ready to take off just like 60 years ago all in Deutsch. Great to relive the past............well almost.
thanks for the greetings
Erich ~
I am aware of an American aces group that meets in southern California about twice a year, but not the German vets group. Could you send me a private on this bitte ?
I live in southern Oregon actually.
Are you familiar with the Me 262 recon a/c on display at Chino airprot, California. About two years ago friend Hans Busch had a mini seminar in his time with KG 51 and his bombing days flying the Me 262A-2. About 350 of us were present an drooled over the wonderful 262 as it was pulled out of it's narrow waiting area onto the Tarmac. On the other side of the barrier wall sat 3 gorgeous P-51's and across the field was a wonderful B-25. A great time especially after the attendance left and around 5pm Hans got a chance to sit in the cockpit of the Chino warbird and gave us (about 6 of us) a full flight description and ready to take off just like 60 years ago all in Deutsch. Great to relive the past............well almost.
thanks for the greetings
Erich ~
Please don't start speaking German, I hate it when people speak German for one reason; in school I always said I'd never need it, and when people speak German those words come back to haunt me.
Erich, you're a very lucky man. I don't know anyone that was in World War 2, let alone in any AF. Well, I tell a lie, my Great-Uncle was a mechanic in the RAF and served on Malta.
Erich, you're a very lucky man. I don't know anyone that was in World War 2, let alone in any AF. Well, I tell a lie, my Great-Uncle was a mechanic in the RAF and served on Malta.
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