Best World War 2 fighter NOT designed by...?

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    What was the best World War II fighter that was NOT designed by one of the following Allied or Axis countries? USA, USSR, UK, France, Germany, Italy, or Japan
     
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    Swedish J22 or J21... ;)
     
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    #6 parsifal, Nov 19, 2010
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    well, this is a more difficult question than it appears, and one has to make assumptions as to the intent of the question. I assume that the aircraft to be selected must at least have reached protype stage, or at the very minimum have reached a stage in development where production was at least a possibility. If all projected types are included, the excercise ceases to have any link to reality.

    So I am going to assume that the aircraft not only needs to be a design, it has to have reached some stage of production or have reached a stage of design where production was feasible.

    The second comlication is the time period of the designs.....how is a pre-war P-50 Polish Jastrab able to be compared with a a CAC-15, designed and flown in 1945. I think therefore that the best that can be done is to make some allowance for the time at which the aircraft was designed.

    Then lastly we need to consider those countries that took a design, and modified it. This might need to be clarified, but i would assume the mods would need to substantially alter the nature of the aircraft. I dont consider, for example the Spanish version of the Me109, as an indigenous design, it was not sufficiently altered to earn that. On the other hand, the Hungarian mods to the Re2000 I do consider to be a separate type, partly because of the circumstances surrounding its development, and also because those changes were quite substantial and took what was essentially a failed design and made it a success

    So, having established some criteria , what is my list. Here are a few suggestions

    Poland: P-50 Jastrab (1939), Pzl P-62 (1940)
    Latvia: VEF I-19 (1940)
    Denmark: D-21 (with 20mm cannon)(1940)
    Holland: D-21 (1938), Fokker GI (1939), Fokker FK-58 (1940)
    Belgium: Renard R-37 (1941)
    Rumania: IAR 80 (1941), IAR 81 (1942)
    Hungary: Heja (1941), Me210 (1942)
    Yugoslavia: IK-3 (1940), IK-5 (1942???)
    Switzerland: D3802 (1945-6)
    Sweden: J-22(1943-4)
    Australia: CAC Ca12 (1942, Ca14 (1943), Ca15 (1944-5)



    Poland:
     
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    General characteristics

    Crew: One
    Length: 7.80 m (25 ft 7 in)
    Wingspan: 10.00 m (32 ft 10 in)
    Height: 3.60 m (11 ft 10 in)
    Wing area: 16.00 m² (172.16 ft²)
    Empty weight: 2,020 kg (4,445 lb)
    Loaded weight: 2,835 kg (6,240 lb)
    Powerplant: 1× SFA STWC-3G 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engine, 795 kW (1,065 hp)


    Performance

    Maximum speed: 575 km/h (360 mph)
    Cruise speed: 340 km/h (210 mph)
    Landing speed: 140 km/h (90 mph))
    Range: 1,270 km (790 mi)
    Service ceiling: 9,300 m (30,500 ft)
    Rate of climb: m/s (ft/min)
    Wing loading: 177 kg/m² (36 lb/ft²))
    Power/mass: 0.28 kW/kg (0.17 hp/lb)


    Armament

    4x 13.2 mm (0.53 in) M/39A (Browning M2) machine guns

    I stick with my J22, how many of the others could out climb the P-51D below 15.000 feet and operate from the same harsh conditions?

    With 575 km/h (360 mph) from a 795 kW (1,065 hp) engine, it was in the same class as the early marks of Supermarine Spitfire and Zero....
     

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