CANADA TO BUY USED RAAF JETS

[Lucky13]

Second hand ammunition too....only used once?

 

[buffnut453]

Second hand ammunition too....only used once?

And once again I find myself looking for a "Groan" option (in addition to Bacon, Like, Agree and Winner)!

 

[vikingBerserker]

There is this one which fits:

 

[buffnut453]

Agreed...just need it adding to the ever-growing list of options at the bottom right of each post. Simples, right?

 

[Crimea_River]

This will do:

 

[Koopernic]

Emoji used to work.

 

[Totalize]

Andy your bang on. Let's not split hairs over "state taxes" Let's be honest with ourselves and call a spade a spade. The fact of the matter is the $65-71 billion is a dollar amount Boeing will never have to pay in taxes as part of running their business. A subsidy is a subsidy is a subsidy whether its national government loan guarantees or state tax breaks which roll over continuously. Boeing is the most subsidized a/c manufacturer in the world by a long shot. So they have no other reason to fight this fight other than to destroy an aerospace company in order to prevent what could become another competitor in the future. Airbus as I understand has now taken a small equity position with Bombardier and some of the major construction of the -300 will take place at one of their U.S. facilities which means high paying jobs for Americans. Don't count on Boeing doing anything of the sort in Canada beyond building a few smaller aircraft parts. They are a bunch of F.....kers plain and simple.

The "Borg" Boeing was suppose to have a meeting with the US government yesterday I believe to discuss how they would be hurt by Bombardier selling their jets to U.S. carriers. They don't compete with Bombardier in that market segment so It will be interesting to hear the BS they spue out to justify the tariff and their "dumping" claim. Won't be surprised if the half wits in the U.S. government agree. Shameful.

 

[FLYBOYJ]

Andy your bang on. Let's not split hairs over "state taxes" Let's be honest with ourselves and call a spade a spade. The fact of the matter is the $65-71 billion is a dollar amount Boeing will never have to pay in taxes as part of running their business. A subsidy is a subsidy is a subsidy whether its national government loan guarantees or state tax breaks which roll over continuously. Boeing is the most subsidized a/c manufacturer in the world by a long shot. So they have no other reason to fight this fight other than to destroy an aerospace company in order to prevent what could become another competitor in the future. Airbus as I understand has now taken an small equity position with Bombardier and some of the major construction of the -300 will take place at one of their U.S. facilities which means high paying jobs for Americans. Don't count on Boeing doing anything of the sort in Canada beyond building a few smaller aircraft parts. They are a bunch of F.....kers plain and simple.

The "Borg" Boeing was suppose to have meeting with the US government yesterday I believe to discuss how they would be hurt by Bombardier selling their jets to U.S. carriers. They don't compete with Bombardier in that market segment so It will be interesting to hear the BS they spue out to justify the tariff and their "dumping" claim. Won't be surprised if the half wits in the U.S. government agree. Shameful.

I agree with many of your points but do you have proof of that? How about subsidies received by Airbus, both legal and illegal?

EU Failed to Cut Off Illegal Subsidies to Airbus, WTO Rules

Don't count on Boeing doing anything of the sort in Canada beyond building a few smaller aircraft parts

And that's where Canada could grab Boeing by the balls as if Boeing was really serious about selling F/A-18s to Canada, and Canada was serious about buying them in lieu of the F-35. The Canadian government could negotiate an offset program that could place hundreds of jobs in Canada and probably negotiate with Boeing to stop their stupidity against Bombardier. This was done by Lockheed in the 1970s and 80s during the CP-140 program where the last 150 or so P-3s built (including the CP-140) had about 40-45% of their structure built in Canada.

In the end, the current Canadian government should not have bought the anti-F-35 BS, stayed on board as a customer and partner and probably could have come out way better in providing jobs to the Canadian Aviation Industry while enhancing their air force.

 

[Greyman]

In the end, the current Canadian government should not have bought the anti-F-35 BS, stayed on board as a customer and partner and probably could have come out way better in providing jobs to the Canadian Aviation Industry while enhancing their air force.