Captured Aircraft

[GrauGeist]

Wow did they really capture that many????

yep, they had quite a few Allied aircraft, especially with Zircus Rosarius and Kg200.

If you want to have a good read about captured aircraft, look for:
"Luftwaffe test pilot: Flying captured Allied aircraft of World War 2" by Hans-Werner Lerche

 

[bobbysocks]

there were unsubstantiated rumors that LWs pilot in a captured 51s would fly along with a bomber groups like a forward observer and radio the alt and headings in. i know my father said once he saw a flight of 109s zip past him being led a 51 with german markings.

 

[stug3]

I think that is for a movie

Woah, that pic is probably a still from "Fighter Squadron," a 1948 Raoul Walsh flilm starring Edmund O'Brien and the P-47 Thunderbolt. P-51's were used as stand-ins for Luftwaffe aircraft.

Fighter Squadron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The fighter group is equipped with P-47 Thunderbolts. For Luftwaffe fighters, the film used P-51 Mustangs with ersatz German markings. The film was shot for two weeks at Oscoda Army Air Field on Lake Huron, Michigan, and used previously unreleased aerial combat color footage provided by the Army Air Force

 

[fubar57]

Good eye Jim. I knew the Germans had a few -51s(I have the book-KG.200) but the markings didn't look right in the photo,

Geo

 

[GrauGeist]

Good eye Jim. I knew the Germans had a few -51s(I have the book-KG.200) but the markings didn't look right in the photo

Now that I look back at that photo, I agree

No Stammkennzeichen and no yellow painted areas.

 

[Wayne Little]

Fighter Squadron was on the Box here Monday!

 

[Capt. Vick]

 

[bobbysocks]

just happened to be researching something and ran right into this....about a captured 51.

from 357th pilots on the arnhem/market garden missions:

Tom Gates' encounter report: "After the last interception, which took us SW of DZ, Tackline advised nothing in view and we could patrol on our own. I dropped the group down to 13,000 and took up a course of 45 degrees back to the DZ. Over the DZ we saw a gaggle of 109s and 190s flying our reciprocal course to our right about 2,000 feet above. I turned the group right to intercept and called "Drop tanks," after clearing gliders underneath. By the time the tanks were off and climb started, the first gaggle of 190s was passing overhead and up into the sun. When it appeared that they would not turn and bounce us from out of the sun, I turned Dollar sqdn back head-on into the second bunch and the fight was on.

"The first bunch turned back but were intercepted by another sqdn. I picked six 109s. They broke left, then sharp right. I got on one but he spun out under me. Another was in the turn so I latched onto him. He was most aggressive, and after much maneuvering he straightened out and I got a short burst which knocked some parts from his ship. The second burst set him on fire and the third burst finished him. He dived in from 500 feet. My wingman was still with me and we climbed back to 10,000 feet. We saw five 109s flying close formation with a flight of P-51s bouncing them. One 109 split-essed out and went to the deck in aileron turns. The others turned into the bounce.

"I took after the one on the deck and let him have a burst from about 1,000 yards but no strikes seen. When he came to an airdrome he made a turn. I closed enough to see American markings on the upper surfaces of both wings and it was a P-51 painted the same as the 109s. There were no group markings on the nose. When I saw it was a P-51, to avoid light flak from the field I widened the turn and the P-51 leveled out and headed SE at full throttle. There is no doubt that it was flown by a German pilot."

 

[stug3]

 

[stug3]

Judging by the name painted on the cowl, I think this was captured.

 

[Snautzer01]

LEMB:

Wacky Macchi' an Mc202 captured by the 31st Fighter Group in Italy. The following color profile is from Aviolibri special 3 'Macchi MC 202 Folgore' pt. 2 by maurizio Di Terlizzi. A color profile of Wacky Macchi after being repainted to match the Spitfire Mk XIs operated by the 31st Fighter Squadron. The crew added a cartoon character just forward of the cockpit which looks like a Roman soldier holding a club or sword?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y2...red Italian aircraft/USMc202WackyMacchicp.jpg

 

[stug3]

 

[Wurger]

 

[stug3]

Associated Press Photo Shows:- Henry Jameson (right), AP War Correspondent, and F/O Lionel Staples, R.A.F. test pilot and former night fighter chatting in front of a German Fw190 at a U.S. Heavy Bomber Base "somewhere in England". The enemy plane is part of a "Circus" of Jerry planes which tours air bases in England to familiarise personnel with its performance. IRV 263747. 8-1-44-Y.' Censor no: 299304.

 

[stug3]

Captured RAF Messerschmitt Bf 109 (serial number NN 644), 379th BG, Kimbolton, 8 Jan 1944

 

[bobbysocks]

they would have to have a pretty decent fighter escort when they flew. from far away a us or raf pilot is going to see the shape, not the round insignia, and probably start throwing lead at it.

 

[Razz]

Nice thread

 

[Gnomey]

Nice shots guys!

 

[johnbr]

 

[johnbr]