Douglas A-20 Havoc

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  1. V-1710

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    One of my favorites, but a plane somewhat forgotten. I have heard it was a real joy to fly.
     
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    It was a devestating plane to use in the SW Pacific.

    Perfect for low level attacks on airfields and ships.
     
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    It was also a beautiful plane and it had a very long service life, being used in Vietnam also.
     
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    I think it was the A26 that was used in Vietnam
     
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    The A-26 was used In Viet Nam, the A-20 was one of those aircraft that disappeared quickly after WW2. There is one at Fox Field, Lancaster Ca., at a small museum there, it was a converted executive hack supposedly used by Howard Hughes.
     
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    Oops got them confused there. Sorry about that. Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Interesting A-20 trivia: The fuselage was too narrow to permit the crew to change positions in flight. Early A-20's had flight controls in the dorsal gunner's compartment. In the event that the gunner had to fly the plane, he opened the canopy, swiveled and raised his seat, and looked through a small folding windshield. Early A-20's also had a dorsal gunner's position, basically consisting of a window in the floor and a .30 cal.. The A-20 was also the basis of the U.S.A.A.C.'s first successful night fighter, the P-70.
     
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    I dont think the A20 was the basis of the P61.

    Totally different airframe, engines, avionics and design philosophy between Douglas and Northrup.

    I would agree to say that the P70 was the interim night fighter untill the P61 could be deployed.
     
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    Is there really a difference between the A20, and the P70, except for armament of course? I know there were different nose configurations, but the P70 was basically the A20. It was like the Germans using earlier civillian transport aircraft as bombers by modifying them to one degree, or another. :glasses7: javascript:emoticon(':glasses7:')
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    Yep, and although Northrop and Douglas work on a lot of projects together (Jack Northrop worked for Douglas at one time) by the time the P-61 was on the scene they were competitors. As a matter of fact the A-20 was one of the first Ed Heinerman designs.

    I believe the P-61 was designed by Vladimir H. Pavlecka.

    And for you Southern California Boys - the test pilot on the A-20 was a fellow by the name of John Cable - his dad founded Cable airport. He was killed in an A-20....
     
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    The USAAF was planning to put a search radar in the A-20 about the time Northrop made a proposal to the AAF for what would become the P-61. I believe the P-70 had the same radar in it as the P-61, but they were two distinct aircraft, and ther P-70 never really influenced the P-61.
     
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    Are you forgetting the British Bostons with Turbinlites (ok the system wasn't that successful but they stil had radar)
     
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    Hi guys, thought I would post these pics of a restored Boston owned by the RAAF Museum. I remember seeing this old girl being restored at RAAF base Amberley some years back.
     

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    Nice shots Wildcat!! They did a great job on her restoration. If I'm not mistaken she is painted up like the Havoc/ Boston depicted in the old Revelle 1/72nd kit...
     
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    :lol:

    I remember that kit!

    Revelle and Monogram made the best models! Followed by Aurora and then Lindberg Line.
     
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    Yep! :lol: I bought 2 or 3 of them so I could build each version!!
     
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    Did you paint it up in RAAF colours?
     
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    Nice pics Wildcat.
     
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    One of the planes I want to make- she looks gorgeous in those pics Wildcat
     
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    Just like the one yo showed!
     
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