Favourite Airframe and Engine Combo

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  1. Smokey

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    If you could choose any prop fighter airframe which saw service in ww2 and fit any internal combustion engine which saw service in ww2, which would they be?

    Mine would be a Yak 3 fitted with a Daimler Benz DB 605 ASC (M) engine

    Apparently the Yak 3 could achieve 401 mph with a 1290 hp Klimov VK 105 engine, which seems quite respectable
     
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    I'd pair the P&W R-2800 with the P-47 bubble canopy ... uh ... yeah.
     
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    A P-38 with 2 Merlins, just for the hell of it!
     
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    Alright how about a Fairey Swordfish with a Pratt Whitney R4360
     
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    Don't you mean a Pratt Whitney R4360 with a Fairey Swordfish?
     
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    Bristol Centarus with a Whirlwind airframe, for the ultimate low alt Jabo.

    Griffon 85 with a Mosquito XVI airframe.

    Jumo 213 with a Ki-61
     
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    I would say Spitfire with a Merlin but that would kind of defeat the point of this.

    So in that case I will say P-38 or Whirlwind with twin Merlins or Griffons.
     
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    Mosquito with RR Crecy
    Fw 190D with DB603n
    BV 238 with four Lycoming XR-7755
    B24 with RR Pennine.
     
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    A Bf-109 with a nice DB-603 engine equipped with the MW and GM system :cool:

    Or how about a Fw-190 Dora equipped with a Jumo 222 C/D engine with a output of 2,206 KW at Take Off power, or a Jumo 211 J with a output of 1,912 KW at Take Off power.

    Jumo 222
    [​IMG]
     
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    Did you ever heard about Fw 190D-14 prototypes, or Ta 152C variants?
     
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    Well since this is about your favorite not about the best I would take a Bf-109 with a DB-605DM or L.
     
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    very nice! The Bf 109... particularly F variants, has always been my favorite airframe... there's just something magical about them...
     
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    8) simple and sound:

    airframe: Me-163D, slightly modified to accomodate the
    engine: HeS30, a lightweighted axial jet engine designed by Adolph Müller, which weighted 2.2 times the weight of the HWK 509 rocket engine but only half the weight of a Jumo-004B. This weight increase may be offsetted by fewer fuel capacity as the specific fuel consumption of the HWK is horrific in comparison to the HeS30.

    dates for HeS30:

    date of design: 1940
    date of benchtests: 1942
    date of service: never
    ordering background: proposal for a class I-turbine (alike Jumo-004 and BMW-003), later rejected
    because of avaiablity of Jumo and BMW-engines in this powerclass.....One of the few WRONG decisions the RLM did in jet propulsion.
    compressor: 5 stage axial
    turbine: 1 stage axial
    weight (dry): 390 Kg (860 lbs) (for comparison: Jumo004: 730 Kg; BMW 003: 540 Kg)
    Note that the construction of this engine was simplier than the Jumo but more difficult than the BMW.
    compression ratio: 1:3
    poweroutput: 860 Kp nominal (1896 lbs)
    poweroutput enforced: 910 Kp benchtested (2006 lbs)
    poweroutput designed: 1125 Kp (2480lbs) at 10500 rpm (for comparison: Jumo-004: 840-890Kp; BMW-003: 800Kp-927Kp enforced)
    thrust to weight ratio: 2.205-2.333

    This engine was unexceeded in the following aspects until the early 50´s:
    -lowest frontal area
    -lowest specific fuel consumption
    -highest thrust- weight ratio



    and now You have a nightmare fighter and a dream to fly...
     
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    The DB603n had 800 to 1000 more power then the other DB603's
    He 280 with He 30 and 3 MG 213 20mm
    Horton HO 229 with HeS011c
     
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    :lol:

    good question though, i'd love to see a whirlwind with the merlins........
     
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    I've said that before in other threads... damn that would be a fine A/C...
     
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    would be quite a feat to pull off though, the reason she "worked" with the peregrines was because of the stupidly low frontal area, which would have been incresed with the Merlins and would require a lot of working to keep the air intakes in the wing roots, that being said the Peregrines were 885hp each and in 1940 that was good for 360mph.... doesn't bear thinking about what they could do with some beefy merlins :D
     
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    j7w+ne130
     
  20. DerAdlerIstGelandet

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    I agree. To me she has a mythical quality to her. Not really a beauty but pretty in a warbird kind of way.
     
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