Galland 109E-3 OR 4

[amiers]

Hi all, new to this forum. i am after information regarding Adolf Galland's 109E's during 1940.

i need to know if the camo of 02/71/65 with 02 mottle was used on any aircraft he flew that had the Mickey Mouse emblem on the side? i have found reference to an E-4 with 74/75/76 but i thought this scheme was introduced on the 109F. Any help would be great.

regards Anthony

 

[Wayne Little]

Galland flew a few different Bf109E's...
His primary aircraft W.Nr 5819 a Bf109E-4 then upgraded to E-7 most definately carried the 71/02/65 scheme...

 

[Wurger]

Yes I agree. Although I have found in some older books about Bf109E that it was RLM 74/75/76 scheme but in my latest purchase I found that it was RLM71/02/65.

 

[Wayne Little]

Yes, one must be cautious of the age of some references.....even some early Bf109F's carried the 71/02/65 scheme!

 

[Wurger]

Yea it is interesting.In the B&W pics it is very hard to recoginze what colours were used.Unless these BF109 were of early 40's scheme without making sides darker.
Hej Wayne...in the new book I found the colour profile of Galland's Bf109E-3 flown by him in August 1940.The aircraft carried non-standard camo scheme which was very light.Have you seen a pic of this machine?

 

[Wayne Little]

You mean this one?

Photo Credit :Adolf Galland Mushroom Model Special

 

[v2]

I found it for you....

 

[Wurger]

You mean this one?

Photo Credit :Adolf Galland Mushroom Model Special

Yes Wayne, that's it.It seems that the Bf was painted with RLM65 on sides and lower surfaces.On upper surfaces it was mixed non-standard grey or blue grey colour or RLM02, mottling of RLM70/71.Interesting doesn't it?


Thank you V2 for these profiles.For sure they will come in handy.

And here an extract form V2's profiles.

 

[Wayne Little]

I have modelled this particular Galland aircraft sometime ago and used 'Greys'.

It is difficult to know exactly what colours were used in this supposedly 'experimental' scheme, a few different combinations have been noted in various publications.

 

[Wurger]

I think you are right.Looking at the pic I've gotten an impression that the light colour was applied on the standard RLM71/02 camo pattern.

 

[Wayne Little]

Didn't realise I had these shots...

here is the 'odd' coloured E-3, that I did many years ago. There is one photo which I think shows the top of the rudder with the earliest initial application of the yellow ID marking, before all sorts of yellow ID was used....

This aircraft also has additional antenna wiring extending to both tail planes!

Plus carried non standard broad upper wing crosses...

 

[lesofprimus]

Very nice work Wayne...

 

[ccheese]

Yes.... very nice work, Wayne...

Charles

 

[Lucky13]

Beautiful work Wayne!

 

[Catch22]

Agreed!

 

[Wurger]

I'm with all lads here.

 

[Lucky13]

...and I'm with you Wojtek....

 

[Screaming Eagle]

jeez you're really dedicated to this lucky, I wonder how wojtek feels getting all this extra attention from you!

 

[Lucky13]

 

[Wayne Little]

Thanks Guys!