GB-64 1/72 F-82E Twin Mustang - One Trick Pony (2 Viewers)

[PlasticHero]

Username: PlasticHero
First name: Alan
Category: Intermediate
Manufacturer: Monogram
Model: F-82E Twin Mustang 7501
Scale: 1/72
Extra: Decals

Looking at Scalemates for the kit history, I was pleasantly surprised to see that the box and instructions show this is a first pressing made when I was a sophomore in college. (1973) It is raised details and rather coarse details. I'll comment more as the parts get put together.

For markings, I'm going with the bare metal Fighter Escort.

I am really glad to see so many people making this version.

 

[Wurger]

 

[fubar57]

Good one Alan. I've never seen this kit built and now we have three

 

[Vic Balshaw]

Nice choice, will almost be like two builds in one.

 

[Lucky13]

 

[T Bolt]

Good to see another F-82, and all 3 different kits!

 

[A4K]

And the first entry in 1:72

 

[F-104nut]

Alan this is going to look great !!

 

[rochie]

Another great subject

 

[le_steph40]

 

[PlasticHero]

So, P-factor, at high aircraft angle of attack, the downward moving prop blade will exert more thrust than the upward moving prop. The center of thrust of the prop disk will be on the downward moving side, causing a yaw effect. This effect can be minimized on twin engine aircraft when losing an engine on takeoff, by having the downward turning blade on the inside resulting in a clockwise turning prop on the left and counter on the right as seen from behind the aircraft. P-38 is opposite this because of airflow effects during power on/power off causing pitching motions.

Why do P-38s have counterrotating props? - PPRuNe Forums

Aviation History and Nostalgia - Why do P-38s have counterrotating props? - To eliminate the problem of "the critical engine" in an engine-out situation, I'd always thought. But yesterday I saw a photo of a restored P-38 that made it obvious that the propellers counterrotate in the wrong...

www.pprune.org

The sole reason for choosing the production direction of rotation was that it reduced the power on/power off pitching moments, thus making the aircraft a better gun platform. The designer Kelly Johnson affirmed this reason in a speech. The direction chosen for the prototype was the worst possible in this respect, but the pitching moment issue only came to light during the wind tunnel tests following the crash of the XP-38. [quote from this thread]

The F-82 has the opposite setup and what I would expect. Just to confuse things, the Mosquito and B-25 have clockwise turning props on both sides. I am careful to say clockwise turning prop because there are reduction gears between the engine and prop, and I don't know which way the engine turns.

No Twin Mustang Has Ever Been Restored...Until Now

Last of the long-distance escorts.

www.smithsonianmag.com

Perhaps the most unexpected gem he unearthed was the P-82's lefthand-turning engine. [quote from thread]

I don't know what "lefthand" means, a change in engine rotation, or a change in the reduction gear drive attatched to it. I "feel" that the reduction gear drive is easier but have no info at all about that. Anyone with any knowledge about this would be super interesting to me. Also if my explanation about anything is incorrect or misleading, please let me know and I'll try to correct or expand this post.

 

[PlasticHero]

Donivanp All those kit cockpit details, and the PE are really going to make that pop!!
I have seats, instrument panels, sticks, headrests, a radio and some "raised detail" on the walls. I've added a little stretched sprue and card to spiff mine up a bit. The panel decals are from a Hurricane decal sheet I had. Missing from the pic are the control sticks.

North American F-82E Twin Mustang - Specifications, Facts, Drawings, Blueprints

The North American F-82E Twin Mustang was in effect an Allison-engined P-82B, and the order for 100 aircraft was placed in November 1945 (the contract appear to have been effective from 12 December…

aeronauticsmagazine.com

This site confirms the Allison engines and that the copilot in the starboard fuselage could fly the plane if needed; at least in the E. So far, I have this quote "a radar operator replacing the second pilot." from wiki which seems to say it was not flyable from that side in the F and G.

 

[fubar57]

Nice mods Alan

 

[Crimea_River]

I agree.

 

[Donivanp]

Donivanp All those kit cockpit details, and the PE are really going to make that pop!!
I have seats, instrument panels, sticks, headrests, a radio and some "raised detail" on the walls. I've added a little stretched sprue and card to spiff mine up a bit. The panel decals are from a Hurricane decal sheet I had. Missing from the pic are the control sticks.
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North American F-82E Twin Mustang - Specifications, Facts, Drawings, Blueprints

The North American F-82E Twin Mustang was in effect an Allison-engined P-82B, and the order for 100 aircraft was placed in November 1945 (the contract appear to have been effective from 12 December…

aeronauticsmagazine.com

This site confirms the Allison engines and that the copilot in the starboard fuselage could fly the plane if needed; at least in the E. So far, I have this quote "a radar operator replacing the second pilot." from wiki which seems to say it was not flyable from that side in the F and G.

Looks good. There is a group discussion on this form discussing the F-82 quite well from a few years back. The E did indeed have twin cockpits and was a long range escort belonging to SAC. Allison powered. There were 96 completed as E out of original 250 ordered, 100 on the base contract. Of the 100 96 were completed as E and the last four went to H model conversion which were specifically ordered for Cold Weather and sent to Alaska.

 

[Vic Balshaw]

Looks like your well and truly underway Alan.

 

[Gnomey]

Good work so far!

 

[A4K]

Looking good mate

I've got spare P-51B (Revell x2) and -D (new tool Airfix x2) instrument panel decals if you want them.

 

[PlasticHero]

What generous offer, I looked back at my MTO build where I used the Airfix P-51D and the decal image looks like it will fit better on this build. Thanks!!!!

INCOMING
This is 1/72 right? Remember, I'm the Lilliputian builder.

 

[A4K]

Yep, the one true scale. Are there other scales?