Girls and Aircraft - Volume II

[MiTasol]

I am not questioning if the women in question worked there. Rather, the comment re no safety goggles or similar prompted my comment about staged photos. If they were doing a publicity photo they may have taken them off for 'artistic' reasons given bo actual physical work was being done at the time of the photo.

Somewhere I have a ww2 or soon after USAAF safety manual that I thought I scanned and posted here - will go looking.

There was a comment on this or another thread a few days back on where have all the good looking girls gone.

Back then they walked to school and then to work and did not eat junk food and seldom drank lolly water

Now they sit their fat ***** in a car to go more than a few hundred metres starting in school, eat lots of junk food (starting before they even go to school) and guzzle lots of lolly water from the time they can sit up and hold a sippy cup

 

[MiTasol]

Somewhere I have a ww2 or soon after USAAF safety manual that I thought I scanned and posted here - will go looking.

Well I found part of it on an old backup disc - so I will have to find the original again and rescan it. I only have the first 27 scanned pages at present and pure luck eye safety is on page 27 (section IV page 2)

 

[MIflyer]

Now they sit their fat ***** in a car

60% of American are over weight. Their response to this is to denounce men for "fatphobia" while at the same time insisting that they will date no man who is under 6 ft tall..

 

[MiTasol]

Found the manual again quite quickly and here is the rest of the section on safety eyewear. Pretty comprehensive for 1944. This was the USAAF standard but does not mean that the same applied in civilian factories. I will scan the whole thing and post when I get a chance.

 

[GTX]

United States Air Force Capt. Laney Schol, pilot with the 60th Fighter Squadron, poses in front of a F-35A. Schol was previously an A-10 pilot and transitioned over to the F-35A Lightning II.

 

[Gnomey]

 

[Snautzer01]

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[Gnomey]

 

[GTX]

Miss Ruby May working on a tail component of an aircraft at a factory in Slough, Berkshire. No date and image from IWM.

 

[herman1rg]

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Miss Ruby May working on a tail component of an aircraft at a factory in Slough, Berkshire. No date and image from IWM.

Any further info regarding what airframe is being constructed?

 

[MiTasol]

from what little is visible of the rear spar - possibly a Hawker product in a training school, not a factory or repair shop. Front spar says probably not Hawker.

Definitely a posed photo as no one in a production environment would be grabbing the fragile folded sheet metal base rib and the base of a rudder bow tube vices while drilling. Note also the damage to the base of the rudder leading edge

 

[SaparotRob]

I looked at the photo trying to see if I could guess what it is. I didn't even notice the damage.

 

[cvairwerks]

Could also be a repair center...

 

[Elvis]

I'm gonna say that's a Dehavilland repair or school facility.
Take a look at GTX's picture again.
Notice the spars. Notice how they taper down towards the left of the picture, but the thicker sections are to the right.
In those days, the thinking was still that the teardrop shape was the most aerodynamic.
Initially, I thought she was drilling from the rudder into the vertical stabilizer, but look closely at that pictue.
It's actually the other way around.
So what does that have to do with Dehavilland?

I give you, the DH.95 Flamingo....

...look very closely at the tail section. Notice how much of the vertical stabilizer is rudder.
To me, it looks just like what Ruby May is working on.
"But it can't be, we don't see the cutaway and attachments for the trim tabs!" You say?
That's because GTX's picture doesn't show enough of that part of the tail. Those trim tabs would be outside of the picture.
Remember, trailing edge is towards the left (where the trim tabs would locate), the leading edge is towards the right of that picture.
"But its a transport! That rudder woud be HUGE!" You say?
The Flamingo wasn't that large. According to Wiki, it grossed out to only 18K lbs. About the same as a Lodestar.

So, I say it's the rudder from a DH.95. That's what I think anyway.

 

[SaparotRob]

I looked at the photo trying to see if I could guess what it is. I didn't even notice the damage.
I never even heard of the DH.95 before.
Another surprise to me is the tear drop shape isn't the most aerodynamic.

 

[CATCH 22]

Remember, trailing edge is towards the left (where the trim tabs would locate), the leading edge is towards the right of that picture.

I agree with you that on the right side is the fin and on the left side is the rudder. But check the bottom of the fin - it's not rounded but straight. Like a part to be mounted on top of a something (fuselage). The whole part is not elliptical at all (as the one of the Flamingo). The rudder is also not too large - we see the bottom of it and where the rounded trailing edge ends. IMHO it's from a smaller airplane.

P.S. For comparison: the tail fin of the Flamingo and the people nearby:

 

[Elvis]

I agree with you that on the right side is the fin and on the left side is the rudder. But check the bottom of the fin - it's not rounded but straight. Like a part to be mounted on top of a something (fuselage). The whole part is not elliptical at all (as the one of the Flamingo). The rudder is also not too large - we see the bottom of it and where the rounded trailing edge ends. IMHO it's from a smaller airplane.
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Not saying you're not right, but it appears to me, the bottom of what she's working on seems to attach to something, as if it's a piece of a larger structure. Maybe what's missing here is the rounded bottom section you mentioned.

 

[MiTasol]

Could also be a repair center...

A repair centre would be using fixtures that could not cause damage to the primary structure

So would a good school although it might grab the base of the front spar in a vice with soft jaws.

 

[MiTasol]

Also the top of the fin has a joggle in it and the rudder has a horn.

 

[CATCH 22]

Also the top of the fin has a joggle in it and the rudder has a horn.

I'm not sure if this is correct. There is no breaking point/joint under the horn of the rudder. That piece cannot move together with the rudder.
But guys, what if this is not a rudder but a horizontal stabilizer with an elevator?