Groundhog Thread Part Deux - P-39 Fantasy and Fetish - The Never Ending Story (Mods take no responsibility for head against wall injuries sustained)

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Aka...

He's just a joe pilot...
 
And yet Shomo flew P-39Qs for a year with zero VC. All his scores came flying the F-6D (7 total. 6 in one mission). I'm wondering where he developed his successful engagement skills versus the Zero.
I believe it was documented that Shomo and his wing man (Lieutenant Paul Lipscomb) may have come across a flight of very green pilots on a training mission, thus the lack of aggressiveness of the fighters, IIRC 3 of the Japanese fighters actually fled the engagement.
 
The Hs129's armored bathtub and windscreen weighed over a ton and ranged from 1/4" to 1/2" in it's construction (windscreen was almost 3" thick).

So figure the P-39's 256 pounds of standard armor plus the alleged 750 pound belly armor would put it at roughly half the weight of the Hs129's armor.

That's a hell of alot of weight...
 
I remember Shomo and his wingman came across a flight, of I think Tonys, as a cerimony escort. It has been about 40 years since I read about it and I couldn't begin to find which book and verify my memory, but what stands out is his wingman landed first and was berated about his leader making repeated victory rolls.. He told those watching what happened and of his own victories and when asked why he had not made victory rolls of his own, he said that he had just checked out in the Mustang and was not sure how.
 
Interesting bit about Maj. Shomo, he started flying for the 5th AF in 1944, flying tactical recon missions (typically a P-39Q) but on 2 September 44, led a four ship armed recon mission in a P-40, the other three being P-39s. They hit bad weather and turned back and all three P-39s were lost (all MIA), he being the only one to return.
In October '44, he transitioned to the F-6D and on 10 January 45, he claimed his first kill.
It was 11 January 45 that was his landmark mission, he and his wingman being in F-6Ds on an armed PR mission when they bounced 11 KI-61s and one KI-44 escorting a G4M at 2,500 feet.
He scored six fighters and the Betty while his wingman scored three.

So Shomo's war total was eight enemy aircraft, none of which were in a P-39, even though he heaped high praise on it.
 
I believe one Tojo was in the flight - maybe the instructor or senior pilot?
 
75 pounds would certainly be more realistic.
And back in the mists of time I have a sort of memory that totalled up all the weight reductions, fuel cells, guns, ammo, armour etc that were also about 750Lbs, of which some could have been belly armour. From the drawing posted, if that weighed 750LBs it must have been inch thick steel at least.
 

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