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I just found some more info that disputes syscoms claims here. Maybe he will shut up now.
If crimes go unreported they can not be part of your statistics which makes that not accurate syscome.

Violence Against Women Goes Unreported


April 18, 2003

Approximately half the violent crimes committed against people age 12 and older - including rape, sexual assault, robbery, and simple and aggravated assault - went unreported in 2000, according to a report released last month by the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS). Reporting Crime to the Police, 1992 - 2000 finds that, while violent crime is reported to police more often than personal theft and property crime, much violent crime goes unreported and that is particularly true for violent crime committed by someone the victim knows.

"This report underscores what advocates have known for years: Many victims of domestic and sexual violence do not report the crimes to police," said Family Violence Prevention Fund President Esta Soler. "The severe underreporting of violence against women leads people to believe that the problem is less pervasive than it is, and that illusion is dangerous. We need to put more energy and resources into improving our response to violence. Victims of domestic and sexual violence will be more likely to come forward when they know that law enforcement and the courts will hold perpetrators accountable, and that more adequate support and services will be available to them."

Reporting Crime is based on the results of the National Crime Victimization Survey. The report was written by BJS statisticians Timothy C. Hart and Callie Rennison, PhD.

Reporting Violent Crime

In 2000, approximately half the violent crime in the United States (49 percent) was reported to the police, according to Reporting Crime. This marks an increase from an annual average of 43 percent from 1992 through 1999. From 1992 to 2000, the number of violent crimes decreased and "the overall percentage of crime reported to police increased," the report concludes.

Serious violent crime, which excludes the "verbal threats and minor injuries" that constitute simple assault, was reported to police at a higher percentage than overall violent crime: 53 percent compared with 43 percent, according to Reporting Crime. Fifty-five percent of aggravated assaults were reported to the police and 38 percent of simple assaults were reported.

Victims of violent crime are more likely to report crimes committed by strangers, finds the report. A "nonstranger" is defined in Reporting Crime as an intimate, friend/acquaintance or other relative. Forty-five percent of violent crime committed by a stranger was reported to the police, and 41 percent committed by a "nonstranger" was reported. When the relationship between the victim and the attacker is unknown, 43 percent of the crimes are reported to the police.

Reporting Crime examines the reasons that victims did or did not report crimes to the police. The most common reason given for reporting violence to the police was to "prevent further violence" - 19 percent. The most common reason given for not reporting violence was because it was a "private/personal matter" - 20 percent over all. Twenty-three percent of victims of rape/sexual assault said it was a "private/personal matter." Twelve percent of rape/sexual assault victims said "fear of reprisal" was the reason they did not report the crime to the police. Six percent did not report to protect the offender, three percent because it was "not clear a crime occurred," and two percent do not report the crime to the police because of lack of proof.

Violence Against Women

Overall, violence against females was more likely to be reported than violence against males, finds the report. This includes all forms of crime, not just intimate partner violence, rape/sexual assault or other forms of violence against women. From 1992-2000, 47 percent of the violent crime crimes against females were reported to the police and 40 of violent crime against males were reported, according to Reporting Crime.

In 2000, 48 percent of rapes/sexual assaults committed were reported to the police, according to the report. This marks an increase from 1999, when only one-quarter (25 percent) of the rapes/sexual assaults were reported. On average, from 1992 through 2000, 31 percent of rapes/sexual assaults committed were reported. Thirty-two percent of rapes/sexual assaults with female victims were reported to the police and 27 percent of the rapes/sexual assaults with male victims were reported. But, the report notes, the "differences in percentages of reporting rape/sexual assault for male and female victims were not 'statistically significant.'"

Victims of rape/sexual assault were more likely to report the crime when their attackers were strangers: 41 percent of the rapes/sexual assaults committed by strangers were reported, compared with 27 percent committed by "nonstrangers." Just under one-quarter of the rapes/sexual assaults committed by an intimate (24 percent) were reported to the police and 27 percent of those committed by a friend/acquaintance of the victim were reported.

Between 1992 and 2000, 54 percent of the violent crime committed by intimates, including rape/sexual assault, was reported to the police, according to Reporting Crime. Fifty-five percent of the serious violent crime committed by an intimate was reported to the police.

Robberies committed by intimates were the type of intimate partner violence most likely to be reported to the police - 72 percent were reported. Sixty-three percent of aggravated assaults committed by intimate partners were reported to police and 53 percent of simple assaults were reported. The report does not examine the gender of the victims of intimate partner violence.

Unreported Domestic Violence, Police Domestic Violence - Support Network for Battered Women

Here is a better one:

Millions Of Crimes Go Unreported

WASHINGTON, March 10, 2003

AP) The nation saw violent crimes other than murder fall by 9 percent last year, marking the lowest level since the government began surveying victims in 1973.

A record low number of reported assaults, the most common form of violent crime, was reported.

The drop is detailed in the 2001 National Crime Victimization Survey, which is based on interviews with victims and thus does not include murder. The Bureau of Justice Statistics report was obtained Sunday by The Associated Press in advance of its release this week.

Preliminary figures from an FBI report — gleaned from more than 17,000 city, county and state law enforcement agencies and released in June — reflected an increase in murders of 3.1 percent in 2001.

Specialists said the decade-long decrease in violent results mainly from the strong economy in the 1990s and tougher sentencing laws.

"When people have jobs and poor neighborhoods improve, crime goes down," said Ralph Myers, a criminologist at Stanford University. "Crime also has been impacted by the implementation of tough sentencing laws at the end of the 1980s."

Since 1993, the violent crime rate has decreased by nearly 50 percent.

The report said that between 2000 and 2001, the number of people who reported they were victims of violent crime fell from about 28 per 1,000 to about 25 per 1,000. The number of people reporting violent crimes fell from 6,323,000 in 2000 to 5,744,000 in 2001.

Only about half of the violent crimes counted in the survey were reported to police.

The report showed a 10 percent decrease in the violent crime rate for whites. It also included an 11.6 percent decline for blacks and a 3.9 percent increase for Hispanics. However, those figures were not given the highest grade of confidence because of analytical formulas that suggest they could be flawed.

Assault was down 10 percent, but victim reports reflected a 13 percent increase in injuries.

The effect of tougher sentencing laws can best be seen in the drop in the rate at which people in the United States are assaulted, said Bruce Fenmore, a criminal statistician at the Institute for Crime and Punishment, a Chicago-based think tank.

"There is overwhelming evidence that people who commit assaults do it as a general course of their affairs," Fenmore said. "Putting those people behind bars drops the rate."

The rate at which criminals used guns to accomplish their crimes held steady at about 26 percent.

Victims of rape and assault were the least likely (7 percent) to face an armed offender, while robbery victims were the most likely (55 percent).

Rape fell 8 percent, and sexual assaults — which include verbal threats and fondling — fell 20 percent. About half the women who reported rapes said the perpetrator was a friend or acquaintance. The rate at which women reported rape to the police fell 19 percent in 2001.

The overall property crime rate fell 6 percent between 2000 and 2001 because of a 6.3 percent decrease in theft and a 9.7 percent drop in household burglaries.

The car theft rate rose 7 percent, reflecting a jump from 937,000 car thefts in 2000 to 1,009,000 in 2001.

Teenagers seemed less likely to be victims of violent crime. The crime rate against those between ages 16 and 19 fell 13.2 percent.

Crime also fell in each of the regions of the United States but showed the most dramatic decline, 19.7 percent, in the Midwest.

The decline was felt in urban, suburban and rural areas alike. The rate of violence experienced by suburbanites fell 14 percent. In urban and rural areas, the rate fell 5.4 percent and 10.6 percent, respectively.

The preliminary summary of the report did not include a state-by-state breakdown.
Millions Of Crimes Go Unreported - CBS News

The report, Reporting Crime to the Police, 1992 - 2000, is available on the Bureau of Justice Statistic's web site.
 
Syscom you bring alot to this forum don't end it just b/c you have too much pride to stop talking. Chris is the law here, you can't win vs him. Stop trying to "win" this arguement.

Just end it Syscom by saying something along the lines "lets agree to disagree" and stop posting on this thread. You have, if I am reading Chris's posts correctly, burnt your last bridge with him on this thread.

MODS always get the last word when they want to Syscom. You have been on this forum (and maybe others) long enough to know so. Stop pushing your luck. Syscom you have said you peace, you are not going to convience anyone here of your point, so to keep going is just going to get you banned. Stop being so stubborn.

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No my arguement is not disagreeing or agreeing with him. I am pissed off at his insulting and will not take it anylonger. One more insulting remark and he is history. He has a problem with people not agreeing with him...
 
I will say one thing about this whole thread. It's very close to being closed. Taking a few courses in college on a subject do not automatically make anyone a subject matter expert. Does it provide a foundation? Yes, but years of study and experience in the field of study is what make someone more of an expert. That being said, plenty of experience in any field will also give someone some expertise as well.

I am a network engineer by trade and do quite well at it. I have taken NO technology courses in a college setting. As a network engineer, a college degree doesn't mean squat. The technology moves way to fast for a college level curriculum to be produced. By the time it did get produced, it would be obsolete. College education is a good thing and MAY open doors for some careers, but it is not true in all career field. I know a guy with 2 MBAs that answers calls in a tech support center!

Having knowledge is one thing, knowing what to do with it is another thing altogether.
 
Closing this thread... Evangilder that is probably the most sane and level headed reaction I have read in this thread to date. Don't get me wrong, I have immensely enjoyed watching the unnecessary self-destruction of forum members right before my eyes. My personal schadenfreude. Your suggestion would most certainly save everyone from some form of anguish.

And may save a respected member from being banned.

Nicely said.
 
No my arguement is not disagreeing or agreeing with him. I am pissed off at his insulting and will not take it anylonger. One more insulting remark and he is history. He has a problem with people not agreeing with him...


Sorry Chris I didn't mean agreeing and disagreeing I worded it poorly. I meant for Syscom just to drop this subject.

I know we don't have to agree with the Mods, believe me I have debated with all the Mods before (including Dan).

I just wanted Syscom to drop this whole thread before he pisses you and Joe off too much and get himself banned b/c of his tone.

Sorry for the misunderstanding and I look forward to "debating" with you again. :lol: :lol:
 
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