I need some help with my Jet Campaign

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  1. Hairog

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    I need some constructive criticism from anyone who is interested.

    Storyline for 1946 WWIII

    Chapter one

    January 23, 1946

    Stalin's former allies have demobilized entire armies and have sent many of their armed forces home. The US and England have a fraction of their former forces stationed on the European mainland and have shown no backbone in resisting Soviet incursions. The only thing holding Stalin back from his vision of a communist Europe dominated by the USSR is the fear of the American nuclear bomb.

    He has seen the devastation it has brought to the Empire of Japan. Although he has no doubt that his armed forces can storm through the blasted hulk of the former Germany and France he is held in check by the fear of nuclear destruction from the skies.

    In addition his former allies are gathering far too many of the German scientists and their wonder weapons and stealing them away to work on even more destructive weapons and delivery systems. Comrade Stalin needs to create a buffer so that the motherland is never subject to attack again. His vision is that all future wars will be fought in the no mans land that is the former Nazi homeland and he is convinced that there will be more wars despite the American atomic bomb. It's all a matter of where and when these wars will be fought because Capitalism and Communism cannot occupy the same space.

    Some say the second atomic bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki was a demonstration for Stalin's benefit and to reinforce the power of the atom bomb in his mind. In addition it was to demonstrate that America has not only one but many bombs and is ready to use them. The plan has worked until today.

    Today Stalin receives word through his spy master and massive network of agents that American has a total of only 6 nuclear bombs. Previously he believed that they had many more and this fear is the only thing that kept his ambitions in check. With this news the plan for the domination of Western Europe begins. No longer will the West be allowed to dictate it's will on the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and Stalin. He will once and for all remove the threat to Mother Russia.

    A massive and very well concealed mobilization begins.

    D-day is May 1st...International Workers Day...May Day and the May Day Parade in Berlin, East Germany is complete with the usual massive flybys of Soviet aircraft. There has been a change from previous flybys in Moscow. The aircraft are flying from East to West and in numbers never before seen. An awe inspiring sight for all to behold. And this year there is a bonus feature to the flyby... the aircraft are armed and have been given orders to ATTACK!


    May 1st, 1946

    The Soviet forces fan out from the Mayday Parade in Berlin and attack their former allies in West Berlin and in occupied West Germany. Most of our forces are caught off guard and slaughtered where they stand.
     
  2. Hairog

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    Chapter Two

    May 6th, 1946
    West Berlin falls

    May 11th, 1946

    Online Map 2 represents West Germany
    Two missions
    The Soviets onslaught continues with the newly formed NATO Alliance barley able to catch it's breath. 2 missions of trying to stop and protect fleeing NATO forces.

    May 19th, 1946
    Two missions
    Online map 1 represents an area near the Belgium and German border.
    Resistance starts to stiffen and the Soviets receive a bloody nose.

    May 24th, 1946
    Ardennes Map
    Three missions
    The French make an all out heroic stand and halt the Soviet forces for a few days. The Soviets halt and regroup before pushing on.

    June 6th
    NW Europe map
    Four missions
    The NATO strength starts to gather and newer equipment starts to show up on the battle field. The Soviet forces are actually held in check at a few crucial bridgeheads. Paris falls but the French fight on along with their NATO allies.

    June 12
    Normandy map
    5 missions
    The navy joins the fight and stops the Red Army at the shoreline using massive firepower from battleships and an air superiority battle breaks out over who will control the French coastline. A massive attempt by Soviet forces to destroy the NATO naval power preventing their ground forces from advancing are launched. The naval forces launch counter attacks on the Soviet airbases and ground forces.

    July 9th
    Online Map 4 represents the Spain/French border, The Pyrenees Line
    8 missions
    According to Plan Griddle envisioned by the Joint Chiefs of Staff ... this is the last line of resistance. The retreat is over and they shall not pass. The Soviet forces slam into the Pyrenees Line and try to hammer their way through.
    Both sides pull out all the stops and use all their collective wonder weapons in an attempt to bring defeat to their opponent. Nothing is held back and anything that can fly, roll or crawl is put into the fight. The two heavy weights go toe to toe with no quarter given. Hay makers are thrown and damage is taken but there is no knock out blow.

    August 7th, 1946

    A breakthrough had occurred in atomic weapons technology by NATO scientists and the W-9 Artillery shell program is modified towards making a 1000 lb 15KT bomb. 4 of these bombs are produced at great expense. This bomb has the same destructive ability as "Fat Man" but 1/8th the size.

    At the same time Naval aviation designers are modifying the GO 229 with the capability of being launched from an aircraft carrier and have the capability of delivering the new W-9 atomic bomb.

    British MI-6 urges a desperate plan and NATO comes in through the back door of the Baltic and launches 2 GO 229s from the CV 10 USS Yorktown carrying modified W-9 atomic warheads.

    Minsk and Warsaw no longer exist.

    Both are key supply and rail hubs. As invisioned by MI-6, three Soviet armies are caught in transit. 2100 tanks and 250,000 men women and children are incinerated by two GO 229 stealth bombers sneaking in under the radar and two 15KT W-9 atomic warheads.

    The first major Soviet offensive is halted and both sides dig in.
     
  3. A4K

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    Is this for a 'What if?' build or what mate?
     
  4. Hairog

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    Ha :D. No it really happened this way. :p Just kidding.

    Yes it's the ultimate "what if". I've always been fascinated with the idea that what would happen if Western Europe and the US went toe to toe with Stalin before the age of M.A.D.. Who would have won? Who's newest equipment was the best? What could those "wonder weapons" that the Germans created at the end of WWII really have done? Would they really have made a difference? etc.

    You may remember an old Lucas game about Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. I loved that by game. So now I have finally become good enough at using the FMB in IL2 1946 and I am designing a massive campaign using as many of those wonder weapons as I can.

    Jets, Jets and more Jets on a massive scale.

    And i need help with it.


    Chapter 3
    The Soft Underbelly

    September 7th, 1946
    Crimea Map
    5 missions
    As envisioned in Plan Griddle the NATO bomber force is relocated to Egypt. On this day the first high level bombing mission occurs. The target is the oil production facilities surrounding Sevastopol. The plan is to obliterate by day and night the Soviet Unions ability to produce oil. 70% of the USSR oil supply and refining capacity are located within range of the new B29 bases in Egypt and new long range fighter bases in Turkey, Rhodes and Cyprus. The strategic air war begins.

    The first attack is a daylight raid by B29s escorted by YP80 and ME262s. That same night a raid by B17s escorted by P51s and 109Z twin 109 long range fighter. The Soviets are caught off guard but respond quickly with a motley collection of B-6 and ME 163 rocket propelled interceptors, Yak 9Us and La-7s. Enough HE Lerche are scrapped together and along with their wire guided missiles start to prove devastating to the attacking bombers.

    The attacks continue day and night.

    Oct. 15th, 1946
    Sevastopol disappears under an atomic mushroom cloud delivered by a B29.

    Oct. 16th, 1946
    Kuban map
    5 missions
    The strategic bombing campaign switches to the Kuban area.

    Nov. 20th, 1946
    Besberobia map
    5 missions
    The strategic bombing campaign switches to the Odessa area.

    Nov. 26th, 1946
    Online map 11a (Turkey) online Italy (Island of Cyprus) Guadalcanal (Rhodes)
    5 missions
    Soviets counter attack the forward fighter bases in Turkey, Rhodes and Cyprus.
     
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    Interesting read , little fascinated myself with that possibility .Thankfully it never happened though
     
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    So in your "what if" do both sides use German jet aircraft and such? Will NATO Me-262's go toe to toe with Soviet Me-262's and such?
     
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    No my plan is to divide up the wonder weapons based on possible need.

    For example the US already had the YP80 and the bulk of the Germany former ME262 pilots so I've given the new NATO Allies those planes.

    The Soviets are kind of late into the jets so one of their first tries was a La7R and the I250 before they got into their real additions the MiG 9 and the Yak 15. Both seem to be awful good by the way.

    I figured the Soviets would be particularly interested in short range interceptors because of the huge American and British Strategic bomber fleet so I gave them the Me 163, their own B-6 and the Lerche. The Lerche is very devastating with those frigging wire guided rockets, in fact too devastating, so I had to have a plan to get rid of it as you will find out.

    I gave the Go 229 to the allies as a kind of heavy fighter and Mosquito type medium bomber so the Soviets got the AR 234.

    Eventually the NATO allies will get the TA183 because they have to win in the end don't they? That plane along with the wire guided rockets are probably the best fighter/interceptor in the game.

    Here's the breakdown of the planed campaigns

    You can choose to take part in several campaigns. In all of your campaigns you will get the toughest jobs and get to try out the newest equipment in combat.

    The best fighter pilot in the American Army Air Force.
    30 missions - Equipment includes
    P51
    YP80
    TA 183

    The best ground attack pilot in the AAF
    25 missions
    Equipment
    P38
    P47
    DO 335

    The best bomber pilot in the AAF
    20 missions
    Equipment
    A20
    B25
    GO 229

    The best fighter pilot in the US Navy.
    10 missions
    Equipment
    F6F
    YP80

    The best dive bomber pilot in the US Navy.
    4 missions
    Equipment
    SBD

    The best fighter pilot in the US Marines.
    4 missions
    Equipment
    F4F
    YP80

    The best fighter pilot in the RAF.
    10 missions
    Equipment
    Spitfire
    YP80

    The best ground attack pilot in the RAF.
    10missions
    Equipment
    Tempest
    DO 335

    The best bomber pilot in the RAF.
    10 missions
    Equipment
    Mosquito
    GO 229

    Best fighter pilot in the French Air Force
    5 missions
    Equipment
    P63 King Cobra
    F4U
    Tempest

    Best ground attack pilot in the French Air Force
    5 missions
    Equipment
    A20
    Tempest

    The best German fighter pilot flying with The AAF
    30 missions
    Equipment
    FW 190
    TA 152
    ME 262
    TA 183
    109Z twin 109

    The best German ground attack pilot flying for the AAF
    25 missions
    Equipment
    Ju 88
    Do 335
    Go 229

    The best Soviet fighter pilot
    40 missions
    Equipment
    La7
    Yak 9U
    La 7R
    I 250
    MiG 9
    Yak 15

    The best Soviet Ground attack pilot
    30 Missions
    Equipment
    IL 10
    PE 2
    PE 3
    Yak 9T
    Yak 9UT
    Yak 9B
     
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    I just finished the opening video track. It shows a massive Soviet attacking force moving into position.
     
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    Chapter 4 The Mideast

    March 5, 1947
    NW Europe, Online map1, online map 2(simulates area within reach of NATO Tactical airpower)
    3 missions
    NATO's spy network notices a large transfer of Soviet forces away from the Pyrenees Line.
    Interdiction missions against trains moving from France to Caucasas.

    March 26th, 1947 (Turkey)
    Online map 11a
    1 mission
    Soviets launch an overland assault on the bases in Turkey.

    April 22nd, 1947
    Italy online map (Palestine)
    4 missions
    Soviets launch and airborne assault on the Mideast. The NATO allies counter attack with naval forces.

    May 5th, 1947
    Desert online
    5 missions
    Soviets attempt to push their way across the Suez Canal. The NATO forces use naval and air forces in an all out defense. They draw a line in the sand.
    The strategic bombing campaign is disrupted as the NATO forces hold on by their finger nails. The advanced fighter bases in Rhodes, Cyprus and Turkey are put out of commission by almost suicide bomber attacks using huge numbers of Pe-8 and Pe-3.
     
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    It's sounds like its going to be a lulu when you get done Hairog.


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    You know what's scary about this campaign?

    It so easily could have happened.
     
  12. Hairog

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    Thank you for the comments. Now here's your reward. :)

    Chapter 5 Separating the Head from the Body

    May 15th, 1947
    Norway map
    2 missions
    NATO Amphibious fleet appears off of the coast of Norway

    May 26th, 1947
    NATO Amphibious fleet appears off of Trieste, Italy and quickly establishes a beach head. Italy's neutrality is negated.

    June 2nd, 1947
    Balaton map
    2 missions
    NATO forces move quickly into Hungry

    Jun 9th, 1947
    Murmansk map
    2 missions
    NATO invasion fleet appears off of Murmansk

    June 9th, 1947
    NATO liberates Sweden

    June 9th, 1947
    Desert online map
    2 missions
    NATO crosses the Suez and drives on Palestine.

    June 9th, 1947
    Slovakia map
    2 missions
    NATO moves east through Slovakia and Hungry

    June 12th, 1947
    Online Italy map
    2 missions
    NATO invasion fleet appears off of Beruit, Lebanon.

    June 17th, 1947
    Online map 4 (Pyrenees Line)
    1 mission mainly made up of German/French/British forces try and breakout into France.
    Soviet forces on the Pyrenees Line are cut off from supply by popular uprisings through out Western Europe

    June 19th, 1947
    Lvov Map
    2 missions
    NATO forces smash through Soviet defenses and enter the territory of the USSR in the Ukraine.

    June 18th
    online Italy map
    4 missions
    NATO liberates Palestine

    June 20th, 1947
    Online map 4
    1 mission
    NATO forces breakout of the Iberian Peninsula and race towards Paris and Berlin. Soviet forces try to stem the tide but have to fall back or be destroyed.

    June 27th, 1947
    Online map 2 (Central France)
    2 missions
    Soviets make a stand at a major river crossing.

    June 19th, 1947
    Gulf of Finland map
    1 mission
    Finland and Estonia are liberated.

    June 30th, 1947
    Norway map (Baltic Sea) and Kurland map
    4 missions
    An invasion fleet enters the Baltic sea and heads towards Riga and Soviet Naval and land forces strike with everything they've got left in the area.
     
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    It sounds fantastic..........have you started developing the camapign? Let me know what kind of help you looking for.

    your latest date (June 30th, 1947) still shows the war raging on....

    Just some interesting info.........

    F-86 Sabre, first flew on 1 October 1947......lol

    edd
     
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    Thanks for the encouragement Eddie. Do you know much about IL2 1946 and the Full Mission Builder? What I need help with is developing missions in the FMB and then using them in the various campaigns.

    Here is another installment.

    Chapter 6
    Start with the Body and Work Your Way Up to the Head

    July 9th, 1947
    Online 11a (Turkey)
    2 missions
    NATO regains it's bases in Turkey

    August 8th, 1947
    TBD map
    NATO naval forces clear the way to enter the Black Sea. Istanbul is declared an open city. The door to the Black Sea is wide open.

    August 10, 1947
    Khalkhin Gol map
    2 missions
    NATO forces reach the Caucus Mountains and secure all areas in Turkey.

    August 12th, 1947
    Kuban map
    4 missions
    A NATO invasion fleet appears off of Krasnodar and goes toe to toe with a mix of Soviets forces that are thrown into the blender.

    August 21, 1947

    Defying Stalin's orders not to give an inch the Commanders of the Caucus Line see the danger they are in and pull back to save their forces from certain annihilation. They conduct a fighting retreat and slowly fall back to Stalingrad. They will make their stand at Stalingrad.

    Stalin promises that the second battle of Stalingrad will be the turning point for this war just as it was during the last Patriotic War.

    September 9th, 1947
    Stalingrad map
    6 missions
    The NATO forces prepare to take Stalingrad from two directions. The Soviets dig in just like they did in 1942.
     
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