Bearcat
Banned
Too many people mistake freedom ofreligion with freedom from religion.... The current state of affairs in this country with regards to this issue makes me think of the 2nd Psalm.. v1-3.
In God We Trust on U.S. currency
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RabidAlien
1st Lieutenant
I'll have to go back and look again, but I thought the vote was to remove "in God we trust", meaning that the "no" votes do not want to remove it. IE, keep it. Usually when they try tricky wording like that, they're hoping that everyone will vote "YES", thinking its the same debate about whether to keep the wording.
Right now it stands at:
Yes. It's a violation of the principle of separation of church and state.
23% (remove it)
No. The motto has historical and patriotic significance and does nothing to establish a state religion.
77% (keep it)
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
Thats in the Federalist Papers, correct? I agree with your conclusion, Magno.
Can't we all just get along?
Freebird
Master Sergeant
Not quite Magno, the "Establishment clause" as it's known means very simply: The US government will not require citizens to belong to any particular religion, nor will it prevent them from belonging to or worshiping any particular religion.
The mis-interpretation of the "establishment clause" by activist courts to ban prayer in schools, ban Christmas dispays on public lands etc has now gone from silly to ridiculous .
Konigstiger205
Staff Sergeant
Why should you get "In God we trust" off the money?...let me guess...the minorities felt offended...
ToughOmbre
Senior Master Sergeant
Absolutely correct freebird! And many times these issues never even get to court. The ACLU threatens court action against a municipality, the locals then decide the money and time to fight the suit is not worth it, and they cave to the ACLU extortionists.
TO
It is all part of the insanity of the new state sponsored religion of the world....political correctness.
Nowadays if you are a white gun owning god fearing Christian you are a bad guy. If you are a homosexual, feminist, illegal alien, or a violent criminal who had a bad break , you are a good guy. Western civilization is teetering on the edge.
Nowadays if you are a white gun owning god fearing Christian you are a bad guy. If you are a homosexual, feminist, illegal alien, or a violent criminal who had a bad break , you are a good guy. Western civilization is teetering on the edge.
Freebird
Master Sergeant
Yes and even worse TO, every case wrongly decided becomes precedent.
Every time I heard Hannity shill for Guiliani "Vote for Guiliani and he'll appoint another Scalia", I just rolled my eyes...
OK everyone, the President DOES NOT APPOINT JUDGES - he nominates them. If another "Scalia" is nominated, he will probably end up just like Robert Bork - thumbs down in the Senate.
Sorry to rain on your parade folks, but a President McCain would be lucky to get another "O'Conner" or "Kennedy" past a majority liberal senate. You are likely to have many more of these flakey verdicts on Religion, Guns civil liberties cases
mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
That is assuming that the democrats maintain their slim majority in Congress.
Njaco
The Pop-Tart Whisperer
Congress has a poorer rating than the President right now and I hope voters remember in November.
Freebird
Master Sergeant
It's only the Senate that counts of course {for Judges}
It would be some miracle if the Repub's gain control, considering the # of incumbent GOP Senators retiring, and the political wind seems to be blowing that way. Supposedly the "Generic ballot" has Republicans down by about 15%, but for some reason Obama is barely ahead of McCain.
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