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I froze that piece with the F5 flying chase and there are differences it appears it is a little bit larger and it definetly has larger engines . One scene baffles me though and it is of the home grown bird taxing but it has intake covers or am I missing something
The jets that Iran is designing now are considered 3rd Generation.
3rd Generation puts them in the same catagory as the:
Dassault Mirage F.1
Dassault Super Étendard
Dassault Mirage III
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21MF/bis 'Fishbed'
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'Flogger'
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 'Foxbat'
McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II
Northrop F-5
I froze that piece with the F5 flying chase and there are differences it appears it is a little bit larger and it definetly has larger engines . One scene baffles me though and it is of the home grown bird taxing but it has intake covers or am I missing something
and in retrospect the Zero was a reversed engineered P35 or so they thought in 1940
And "they" were wrong - you can't compare the development of a front line fighter by world class power in 1940 to an obvious copy of an early 60s technology fighter carried out by a backwards Islamic Republic. I've worked on F-5s and even the seams in the tail canoe for engine removal is copied - the only thing obviously innovative about this aircraft is the V tail and I think it was designed that way just to be different.and in retrospect the Zero was a reversed engineered P35 or so they thought in 1940
Credit is due for their efforts but unless there's a direct link to Allah in the fire control system their new toy will make great targets for most who might come across it and I put my money on Israel.
Its one thing to know what not "under the hood." It's another thing when the "hood" it the size of a bread basket....I'm quite familiar with the F5 (CF116) and know their capabilities fairly well ...room for your ass and gallon of gas and it makes sense they would clone it as it was in the Iranian Inventory .Weren't the ones Canada supplied to Botswana all glass cockpit with a good FCS as they were originally to be used for lead in the F18 . I would agree its FCS would not be up to western standards but it would be simple to maintain. But my point is we don't know under the hood or what technology the Chinese or Russians or even the French have supplied for this bird . The worst thing to do would be take it for granted or any weapon for that matter
There has been nothing derogatory said here about Iranians, just an honest overview of their technical capabilities as well as a few opinions thrown in. I too have work with Iranians (In college one of my best friends was from Iran). After the recent visit by their President, it is obvious where the leadership of that country stands and I recognize this is not a reflection of the people - I read recently where there was a survey taken of young Iranians and they look more favorably towards the US than people from France.Wow.
I'm massively underwhelmed by this thread, and not just about the Iranian's new fighter (which is a bit naff, but still a reasonable achievement).
Having worked and studied closely with several Iranians over the past couple of years, the derogatory attitude really baffles me. I found them generally hard working, intelligent rational people who were fiercely proud of their nation and angry at what they percieve as disproportionaate international criticism and internal meddling in their history and current situation by both regional powers and the superpowers.
Agree....Yes, they do have more than their fair share of religious wackos and the political ends of the spectrum tend to run to the extreeme. But you could also say the same things about America and Israel, although, fortunately, the paradigms in those countries don't tend toward martyrism.
And they are heavily persecuted as well as Christians (One of my Iranian friends was christian)(Curiously, Iran has the largest Jewish population in the Middle East outside of Israel)
And agree as well as I mention the same in previous postsIts easy to write them off, but how about some respect for a nation that, cut off from the rest of the world, has the technical ability to arm itself, even if it is only with second or third rate equipment.
Its easy to write them off, but how about some respect for a nation that, cut off from the rest of the world, has the technical ability to arm itself, even if it is only with second or third rate equipment.
Wow.
Its easy to write them off, but how about some respect for a nation that, cut off from the rest of the world, has the technical ability to arm itself, even if it is only with second or third rate equipment.
After the recent visit by their President