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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
And yet, for some reason, I absolutly despise Colin Powell.......
Iraqi Mig Buried in the Desert....
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I actually like him for somereason.
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Couldnt guess why.... Hes the reason we had to go back to Iraq.... He stopped up from riding into Baghdad and removing Saddam from power, talking about Kuwaiti objectives and whatnot...
Piss on em...
Piss on em...
No we were ordered to stop. The Gulf War was a UN action to get Saddam out of Kuwait. I do agree though that we needed to finish it then and then we would not be there now. But then we would probably be in Iran then if we were not in Iraq right now.
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lesofprimus
Brigadier General
We were ordered to stop by General Colin Powell, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, not the UN....
He could have ended it there and then. He obviously never studied the Wehrmacht doctrine, "...never let up. If the enemy is in retreat follow him to the extent of your supply." The Coalition in the Gulf War could have destroyed the Iraqi Army and it's regime in one swoop.
wmaxt
Staff Sergeant
lesofprimus said:
He was ordered to stop by the President. I think he resigned because were over there now even though it was known beforehand there never were any WMDs to find.
wmaxt
wmaxt said:
And the President had to stop because of the UN mandate. I agree with you Les taht it should have been finished there and then. We should not have stopped but it was not Powells fault.
cheddar cheese
Major General
Aggie08 said:
MiG-25's are kick ass...But not as kick ass as the plane it was supposed to intercept, the B-70 8) 8)
I never really liked the Mig-25. Now the Mig-29 that is another story. I really liked her.
cheddar cheese
Major General
The MiG-17, -23, -25 and -31 are my fave MiG's.
I always liked how the 23 looked.
cheddar cheese
Major General
The MiG-35 is nice too, looks kinda like a Eurofighter.
Nonskimmer
Captain
Yeah, the 23 looks better than the 27. The Mig-27 looks a little strange with that thin nose.DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Yeah that is what I did not like about them. I saw lots of 27's in Iraq that were just mothballed at airbases and stuff.
Well from what I know it was designed to compete and supercede the F-22 and the Eurofighter. It was reportadly canceled due to its high costs in 1997 but then continued with the first test flight being in 2000.
General Characteristics
Crew: one, pilot
Length: 19 m (62 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 15 m (89 ft 6 in)
Height: 4.50 m (49 ft 3 in)
Wing area: m² ( ft²)
Empty (estimated): 15,000 kg (33,000 lb)
Loaded: kg ( lb)
Maximum takeoff (estimated): 20,000 kg (44,000 lb)
Powerplant: 2x Lyulka AL-41F, 175 kN (39,340 lbf) thrust each (Experimental model)
Performance
Maximum speed (estimated): 2,750 km/h (1,720 mph), Mach 2.6
Range (estimated): 4,000 km (2,500 miles)
Service ceiling: m ( ft)
Rate of climb: m/min ( ft/min)
Wing loading: kg/m² ( lb/ft²)
Thrust-to-weight:
Armament
Guns:
Cannon, 30 mm, Izhmash GSh-301
Ordnance, Air-to-Air:
AA-12 Adder R-77, Missile, Medium Range, Radar Guided AA-11 Archer R-73, Missile, Short Range, IR Guided K-37, Missile, Long Range, Radar Guided K-74, Missile, Short Range, IR Guided
Ordnance, Air-to-Ground:
Unknown. Probably any late generation AGM or small-diameter free fall bomb in the Russian inventory.
General Characteristics
Crew: one, pilot
Length: 19 m (62 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 15 m (89 ft 6 in)
Height: 4.50 m (49 ft 3 in)
Wing area: m² ( ft²)
Empty (estimated): 15,000 kg (33,000 lb)
Loaded: kg ( lb)
Maximum takeoff (estimated): 20,000 kg (44,000 lb)
Powerplant: 2x Lyulka AL-41F, 175 kN (39,340 lbf) thrust each (Experimental model)
Performance
Maximum speed (estimated): 2,750 km/h (1,720 mph), Mach 2.6
Range (estimated): 4,000 km (2,500 miles)
Service ceiling: m ( ft)
Rate of climb: m/min ( ft/min)
Wing loading: kg/m² ( lb/ft²)
Thrust-to-weight:
Armament
Guns:
Cannon, 30 mm, Izhmash GSh-301
Ordnance, Air-to-Air:
AA-12 Adder R-77, Missile, Medium Range, Radar Guided AA-11 Archer R-73, Missile, Short Range, IR Guided K-37, Missile, Long Range, Radar Guided K-74, Missile, Short Range, IR Guided
Ordnance, Air-to-Ground:
Unknown. Probably any late generation AGM or small-diameter free fall bomb in the Russian inventory.
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