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plan_D said:There is no doubt that the Bf-109 was an equal to the Spitfire in combat
Do not forget the most produced version of the Spitfire throughout the war was the Mk V (A,B and C) with some 6,500 machines manufactured.
Then the Mk IX follows with some 5,600 toys delivered.
So the most produced version of the Spitfire showed what perhaps made the clearest and purest case of inferiority before its foes in the western front after the BoB.
The F versions of the 109 after the BoB treated the contemporary Spitfire in a very similar fashion.
On other thread (P-51 vs Fw190, Bf 109), Mr. Plan_D puts the Spitfire 21 as fighter capable of surpassing the Bf 109 K-4. Very unlikely. The K-4 could swallow it with relative ease, since the 21 was already becoming a real pig to fly, and saw its manouvering further diminished.
The only Sptifire models that to some degree could deal with the Fw 190 were the Mk XIV
See production tables for the Spitfires from mid 1943 to war´s end: all models that followed were produced in very modest quantities, perhaps feeling real safe to know the 8th AF was beginning its assembly in significant numbers in England.
I would not go as far to say that the Spit IX was superior to the Fw-190A.
Just look at the 1941 Dieppe Raid in which the Fw-190A even though they were outnumbered seriously hurt the Spitfire V's.
When it comes to your evaluation of the Spit IX and the Fw-190A, what kind of Fw-190A and how was she configured.
In my opinion the Fw-190 is a step ahead against the Spitfire; the main advantages include:
- Excellent rolling characteristics.
- Dive as well as boom zoom capacity.
- Higher resistance.
- Stronger armament (more firepower and reliable guns).
- Higher maximum speed.
- Better maneouvrability at high speeds.
It should be kept in mind that the combats over Europe were, at the end of the war, at medium and high altitudes, engaging at very high speeds.
- Higher range.
- Well suited to ground attack.
- Kommandogedraft to ease engine controls.
And I think that from the Spitfire IX onwards any Fw-190 pilot would be worried that he'd come up against a Spitfire. And any Spitfire pilot would be worried that there's a Fw-190.