JAS 39 Gripen is growing up.... (4 Viewers)

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This isn't quite the same as previous BS 'reporting'. The engine talked about here (the RM12EP) is a modification of the existing RM12 (which itself is a derivative of the F404) already used. I am actually meeting with the GKN Aerospace team involved in a few weeks and will find out more about the specific changes.

Thank f....ishfingers for that! 😆😂
The article is....well, safe to read then? 😉
 
First Brazilian Gripen delivered:


Brazil is really moving along on defence. It will be interesting to see their first nuclear powered attack sub enter service in the 2030s.


Who would have thought that Brazil would have a nuclear powered sub before Australia, South Korea or Japan?

 
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Still American-based engines though. SAAB needs to break free from the US government's ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) and EAR (Export Administration Regulations). Of course it's more than just engines, but that's a big piece.
It is more than the engine on the Gripen that has US origin. EAR is less of an issue than ITAR.
 
I admit that I always had a soft spot for the Grippen. I tend to view it as the next F16, with the F35, Typhoon as the F15's in the next generation of fighters. Very effective but more affordable.

With the inevitable Defence budget cuts that are on the way I wouldn't be taken aback if the UK dropped the F35 and purchased Grippens.

Plus no SAAS software arrangement / cutoff switch...
 
Naturally politics will play a bigger role than capability in deciding what gets chosen. A recent Norwegian report defied common sense and logic by publicly claiming that the F-35 was cheaper than the Gripen! The only parallel I can think of was 45 years ago when US influence (possibly) or idiocy (even odds) led to a UK report that claimed that buying the F-111 (still beset by its own problems) would be cheaper than continuing with the TSR 2, despite the latter having 2 complete prototypes, a third almost complete, and component manufacture already underway for the first 40 aircraft! What a waste.

Answer to that mystery is malfeasance / bribes
 
Well, some of them were! 😉

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I witnessed something very similar to this (minus the canoe) during REFORGER back in the 1980s, down at Bremerhaven where were giving mass-innoculations. Two Viggens came in down the Weser river at about that altitude and popped up and flew right over the dock, scared the shit out of everybody - broke a bunch of windows and everything. They thought it was a Soviet attack for about 15 minutes, but it was Neutral Sweden showing their claws a bit (due to both us and the Soviets invading their airspace and fjords several times in the previous few weeks). I knew they weren't Soviet because I saw the blue and gold crowns on the wings when they went over, but I didn't know what kind of plane they were or what country they were from until later. I knew the Soviets wouldn't have crowns on their planes. We were all arguing about it. We got the all clear after about half an hour (but with a bunch of NATO planes flying all over the place roaring around on afterburners) but nobody knew the deal until the next day when AFN radio reported who they were.

Before they went over us like a tornado there was a (subjectively) long moment like that scene with John Cleese charging in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. You could see two dots over the water and a lot of ground effect on the water itself, but we couldn't figure out what we were looking at.
 

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