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Wow, chill the **** out!

1. Erich did not call them a liar. He is saying that his claims are overinflated. Can you prove they are not? No you can't! All sides over claimed. Is that fact or fiction? Or did your beloved Germans and Nazi's not over claim? Were they above it. NO

2. Are you claiming that Rudel was not a Nazi to the end? You obviously have no clue what you are talking about then. Rudel was an ardent Nazi and had no problem admitting them. Why the hell do you think he joined the Deutches Reichspartei in 1953 when he returned to Germany? Why did he continue to support the Nazi ideology and cause in his book "Trotzdem"?

3. Rudel was very very good at what he did. He was an amazing pilot and a great sportsman. He however was a propaganda poster child for the Nazis. There is also no way that his numbers are 100% correct. In the fog of war, mistakes are going to happen. Over claiming happened. Of course in your eyes no good German would allow that to happen right?


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Discuss moralism of nations is useless. All nations commited and many commit attrocities. If you people really want to avoid them, simply don't take part in anything of the sort and stop talking about this.
 
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Thread closed as well! There is no way this particular thread will get back on topic.

If you want to discuss Ju 87 tank aces, or other tank aces, please start another thread and keep ideology and politics out of it.

I also encourage those that really want to discuss the original topic at hand such as Ju 87 tank aces, to please open another thread.
 
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