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Still think the Hurricane IID with twin Vickers 'S' 40mm's, 60 rpg, 2x .303 and a coupla 250lb's [or 500's] were a well-adapted tank-buster/fighter-bomber; they even had rocket-firing Hurri's during the War [Balkans]...bloody versatile, the old Hurricane, and hardy too - That would be my choice....
 
Gemhorse said:
Still think the Hurricane IID with twin Vickers 'S' 40mm's, 60 rpg, 2x .303 and a coupla 250lb's [or 500's] were a well-adapted tank-buster/fighter-bomber; they even had rocket-firing Hurri's during the War [Balkans]...bloody versatile, the old Hurricane, and hardy too - That would be my choice....
WOAH THERE!!! it was 15 rpg and the 7.62mm's/.303cals were for sighting only (you cant afford to miss after all) and the "D" when equipped with the "S" cannons couldnt carry any other underwing (or fuselage) ordanance. Fw-190 has got to be the best (it could even carry a torpedo or a 4000lb bomb, thats how versatile it was!)
 

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Oh, it was much faster too...My source states 20rpg -[ I beg your pardon!!]- diving from 5000ft at 254mph at 20-40ft above the ground, they'd start firing at 1000yds, probably getting another two pair off before breaking-away...Apparently the AP rounds were designed to fragment inside the tanks...got a pic here that's got a Hurri jacked braced to butt-test the Vickers....You're probably quite right about bombs, the bomber version capability was what's quoted - no mention of .303's for sighting, but they'd no doubt be used for defence too...' I was just having a drool....!!!!!! '
 
2 .303s would be a pretty meager defense. And while the Hurricane may have been pretty tough, it can't begin to compare with the Il-2.
 
More manoevrable ???...Hey, I just like the Hurri with 40mm's, the Army liked having airborne artillery...as they needed them at the time , their tank's guns weren't capable of knocking-out the panzers ! - The Il-2 was a very good aircraft in it's role, the Hurricane was an example of immediate-solution to a big problem at that time in the desert....
 
Their tank guns good knock the Panzers in North Africa out, where the D was used.

Those Fw190 needed their own escort though, they were so slow and unmanuverable.

The A-36 couldn't match the Il-2 in tankbusting, but it had a much higher survival rate and it did a good enough job.

And those PTAB 2.5 were only useful if the tanks were bunched or more ideally in a column.
 
The PTABs were limited in their utility, but it would be years before any western nation had anything similar. The potential was there.
 
I'd want to be in the A-36 I'm not very patient and the Il-2 would be too slow for my liking.
 
Once the shooting started, I would rather be in an Il-2 . . . I mean that think was a tank with wings!
 
I'd still rather be in the A-36 I could be much more evasive, and maybe have the chance of an air kill in it.
 
You lot go ahead and get ripped to pieces, the 'concrete plane' can't stay in the air forever.
 
One does when the AA gunners are firing 88mm at you, and you have 190s on your tail with no way of shaking them.
 
You could but most likely your aircraft would fall out of the sky as well...although I have heard of a Soviet pilot ramming two He111s and getting home safely, he was in a P-39 though I think.
 

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