Kit Mustang goes for a tumble at Reno

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  1. Colin1

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    The pilot in this horror crash yesterday had a miraculous escape after emerging from his smashed plane unharmed.

    US racer George Giboney had been flying in high winds in his kit-built Thunder Mustang plane - Rapid Travel - at the Reno Air Races in Nevada. Lucky George, of Des Moines, let the crowd know he was fine with a thumbs up before going for a hospital check-up.
     

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    I saw the aftermath, but those photos are amazing. Glad to hear he got out okay. The winds out there on Sunday were pretty bad, from what I heard.
     
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    I'm glad to hear he's okay and no one else was injured...Geez!!!
    Do you think that 2nd picture is showing the craft after it had cart-wheeled at least once? Looking at the damage on the wingtip and wondering how the engine and tail section are seperating...it looks like that to me.
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    Almost certainly
    judging by the complete change of both foreground and background
     
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    Yes definately. The opposite wing tip is damaged, the spinner is smashed and throwing dirt and the background is different. How does someone survive that? :shock:
     
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    Very dizzy and relieved I guess:lol:
     
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    Wow! Glad to hear he made it out alright.
     
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    eagle, as with everyone i am certainly glad that the pilot is OK but I have two questions.
    1. I would call this pilot error. if he had been higher the wing tip would have missed the ground. or did the high winds cause a problem that could not have been foreseen?
    2. In general a "kit" plane. how safe? the kit maker cannot control construction of his kit. could this be due to poor material or construction?
     
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    In the first pic
    looks like he was just coming in or just going out; critical times for a pilot and aircraft.

    Kit plane yes, but it could just be the light construction of such an aircraft that caused the tip-over when the wind caught him
     
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    Winds were gusting at 30 knots at the time of the accident. He was making a dead-stick landing at the time, which really gives no margin for error. As for the safety of the Thunder Mustang, there are many of them out there that fly safely and a few were involved with the races over the week.

    Pilot walks away from dramatic crash at Reno-Stead Airport - My News 4 - KRNV, Reno, NV
     
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    Looking at that it hardly seems the same accident, the second still photo shows the engine approximately where it should be but it had already been ripped off and bounced back approximately where it should be (for a fraction of a second). I'm not a pilot, would he be better with the wheels up, if he had time?
     
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    Wow the video explains better to me how he was NOT killed. It looks as though he was on the ground already and either bounce (hard landing) or hit something that threw him into the air and maybe wind played a part like they say... But boy those first couple of picture in my mind made it look like he was going hell-bent and dragged a tip.
     
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    #13 evangilder, Sep 21, 2010
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    He was attempting to land the airplane properly and winds took hold. When you have a dead motor and everything happening quickly, you only have so much time to get it right. Looking at where he was heading when it bounced, it was probably better that he hit the wingtip and cartwheeled. He was close to parked jets and just beyond that, the crowd line.
     
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    Pretty remarkable he got out unharmed. Pretty terrible crash.
     
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    evan....I wasnt criticising the guy, with a dead engine he did well to get it down, I just thought it wouldnt have bounced up with the wheels retracted. I presume you need engine power to bring the wheels up anyway?
     
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    Dam, I would have cried if I wrecked that. Glad he's ok!
     
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    I was about 200 feet away from the crash. I didn't see it as I was under my plane. I heard everyone yell and scream and saw a big cloud of dust when I got up to see what was happening. The pilot actually made it to the banquet and received his participation trophy!

    Taken from my cell phone.
     

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    Very glad Mr. Giboney is ok.:thumbright:
     
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    non-pilot asking questions - i've watched the video several times and it looks to me like he came in perpendicular to the runway and hit the edge berm which bounced him into the air. i can also see that the prop is not turning so i understand no power, i.e. "dead stick" was he lined up properly with the runway or did he just bring it down with few options as to where
     
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    I'm not a pilot either Mike
    but if he was dead-stick and conditions were very gusty, he may well have been as lined up as it was possible for him to be
     
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