Korean Problems

[timshatz]

Not sure if anyone is paying attention but Korea is not looking very good right now. However, I don't think there is all that much accurate information flying around. Is South Korea mobilizing? I don't think so but can't seem to get a good line on it.

Anybody have any good info on what is going on?

 

[Messy1]

I'm interested too Tim, good post. I'll read on with interest.

 

[Shinpachi]

The Koreans traditionally hate Bl**d but arguments. Leave them alone and they will forget soon.

 

[timshatz]

Let's hope so. Most recent development is the cutting of diplomatic ties. Not really an unusual thing given their history.

 

[Matt308]

Full up US/SK excercise is underway. SK President has revised rules of engagement. NK claims they are going to shell positions on the DMZ. USS Enterpirise to enter Korean waters. God forbid a NK diesel/AIP sub put a fish into a US vessel.

Scary stuff.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I have been watching this for the last few days.

I will be honest, NK deserves to be punished for this.

 

[Matt308]

...and for all of their past transgressions too.

This story pisses me off evertime I think about it. It was the subject of a PBS documentary.

Axe murder incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The axe murder incident (Korean: 판문점 도끼 살인 사건) was the killing of two United States Army officers by North Korean soldiers on August 18, 1976, in the Joint Security Area (JSA) located in the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) which forms the de facto border between North and South Korea. The killings and the response three days later (Operation Paul Bunyan) heightened tensions between North and South Korea as well as their respective allies, the People's Republic of China and the United States.

The incident is also known as the hatchet incident and the poplar tree incident because the object of the conflict was a poplar tree standing in the JSA."

 

[pbfoot]

been watching this event since the inception , I'm going to assume naught will happen except for morer sanctions

 

[Matt308]

Yeah I agree Pb... crying to the UN. That will do alot of good.

 

[GrauGeist]

NK has been really pushing the limits lately...

It seemed to me that in the recent past that NK and Iran were competing for attention, but we'll see where NK wants to go with this...

 

[Matt308]

NK has been doing this for years. Just google North Korea Incidents and look at all the hits.

List of border incidents involving North Korea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[timshatz]

NKs seem to be getting more desperate of late. Could be stresses in the society, could be change of power coming up. But pumping a torpedo into the side of a patroling warship without obvious provication or warning is not gonna make you any friends out in the world.

I've heard the DMZ is pretty serious even now. Not so much for US Troops but definitely for the SKs.

But, all in all, I think PB has it nailed. Not much is going to happen unless the NKs go over the DMZ. And that isn't going to happen (if history is any judge, once is probably enough).

 

[Messy1]

Do you gentlemen feel NK is just testing it's boundaries so too speak? Seeing how far it can push everyone?

 

[Thorlifter]

NK is amazing. They torpedo a military vessel, they did it, everyone knows they did it, and then scream "How dare you blame us?" I can just see them stomping their feet and holding their breath.

Kinda sounds like (self edited because of political tirade).

I'm hoping PB is right.

 

[Messy1]

At what point does the rest of the world draw a line in the sand and respond with force if NK crosses that line?

 

[Torch]

Pretty tough to draw a line with China not atleast publicly spanking NK.

 

[Messy1]

Good point Torch. What can be done when China will not do anything counter NK's actions.

 

[vikingBerserker]

History has shown time and time again you cannot reason with a madman, yet people continue to try.

It just defies logic.

 

[wheelsup_cavu]

Full up US/SK excercise is underway. SK President has revised rules of engagement. NK claims they are going to shell positions on the DMZ. USS Enterpirise to enter Korean waters. God forbid a NK diesel/AIP sub put a fish into a US vessel.

Scary stuff.

Why would that change anything?


USS Pueblo - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)

The North Korean vessels attempted to board Pueblo, but she maneuvered to prevent this for over two hours and a sub chaser opened fire with a 57 mm cannon, killing one member of the crew

Wheels

 

[GrauGeist]

As much as China has it's hands in the U.S.'s pockets, I seriously doubt they'll back NK this time around, if they drop over the 32nd parallel...just a hunch, there...

But I do believe that NK has been "saber rattling" a little too much lately, like a spoiled angry child looking for attention, and they may end up painting themselves into a corner when they don't get the attention they were looking for and end up having to actually do something to save face.