Messerschmitt Me262 FE110 and FE610
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FE means "Foreign Equipment" - both a/cs have been tested by the British. But originally 610 was with 10./NJG11 and 110 was with KG 51 and later went to JV 44 so all those were regular units.
610 is a Me 262B-1a/U1 and 110 is a Me 262A. IMHO these are two completely different camos. Only the small dots are similar and have been applied later. "Balkenkreuze" are also not the original ones, I believe the svastikas are re-applied later as well.
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Here is info and a couple of shots more of the FE110. Also IMHO the origin German quite worn camo was renewed at a couple of areas.
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Also some info and a nice colour profile can be found in the JaPo book "WW2 German – Messerschmitt Me262s of KG & KG(J) units".
the pic source: WW2 German – MESSERSCHMITT Me262s OF KG & KG(J) UNITS – JaPo Publishing – RARE! – Axis Militaria
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Also some info and a nice colour profile can be found in the JaPo book "WW2 German – Messerschmitt Me262s of KG & KG(J) units".
the pic source: WW2 German – MESSERSCHMITT Me262s OF KG & KG(J) UNITS – JaPo Publishing – RARE! – Axis Militaria
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Great book
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Does someone know what color the nose of red 12 is?
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To return to the markings, what began as FE, or Foreign Equipment markings, were later changed to T2 markings. T2 was code for Technical Intelligence at Wright Field in Dayton Ohio. Those aircraft used by the British had the AE prefix. USA numbers were painted on captured aircraft that were to be handed over to the Americans based on previous agreement. There was some friendly competition between American and British intelligence teams.
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Red 12 had no special colour on the nose AFAIK:
There is camo there and on the pic in your post here. The darker shade may be due to the nose tip being steel if I recall.
There is camo there and on the pic in your post here. The darker shade may be due to the nose tip being steel if I recall.
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As memo serves that's the same plane. And I agree with Andy. Initially no special colour there. However it looks like there were two rings of different colours and the very front part in the camo. But I would say that's the shadow of the antenna support. It can be better noticed in the first pic posted by Andy and in the enlarged shot below.
the pic source: the net.
the pic source: the net.
As per the link I posted above earlier:
FE-610 Messerschmitt Me.262B-1a/U1
(WkNr 110306) 'Red 6' 10/NJG11, Luftwaffe. Surrendered to RAF at Schleswig-Jagel, Germany, it was transferred to the
USAAF, becoming Watson's Whizzers '999', before being shipped to the US. Evaluated as FE-610, but later e-serialed T-2-610
it was named "Ole Fruit Cake" and "Schwalbe". Scrapped at Freeman Field, IN, circa 1950.
This is the "Red 6" (306):
P.S. The above 2 photos are from this site, I forgot it earlier.
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Oh.. sorry I have mixed these two.
Two shots of her more...
the pic source: Messerschmitt Me 262A-1a 2./Kdo Nowotny White 19+ Hesepe Oct 1944
Two shots of her more...
the pic source: Messerschmitt Me 262A-1a 2./Kdo Nowotny White 19+ Hesepe Oct 1944
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Sources vary on whether or not this aircraft (110306) is Red 6 or Red 9. From the recently published book "The Jet Night Fighters: Kurt Welter & The Story of the Messerschmitt Me 262 Night Fighters" by Andreas Zapf:
"Some sources are naming this aircraft 'Rote 6' but that was a single-seater flown by Lt. Jorg Czypionka at least until April 10, 1945. It is known that some of the twin-seaters are delivered after the bombing of the Burg airfield on that day and therefore, she could have theoretically received this 'Red 6' - but 'Rote 9' makes much more sense in the actual sequence of the aircraft known to have flown with 10/NJG11."
The Kagero Monograph 3D #47 on the Me 262 also calls it Red 9.
"Some sources are naming this aircraft 'Rote 6' but that was a single-seater flown by Lt. Jorg Czypionka at least until April 10, 1945. It is known that some of the twin-seaters are delivered after the bombing of the Burg airfield on that day and therefore, she could have theoretically received this 'Red 6' - but 'Rote 9' makes much more sense in the actual sequence of the aircraft known to have flown with 10/NJG11."
The Kagero Monograph 3D #47 on the Me 262 also calls it Red 9.
