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The kind of woods the Mosquito was built, were not readily avaliable for the Germans.
Germany's forests consist of 72 tree species. Of these, 26 non-coniferous and 7 coniferous tree species are used economically. The most important main tree species in this respect are spruce, pine, beech, and oak. Among the coniferous trees, larch and Douglas-fir play an important role in forestry in general, while the silver fir is important in Southern German
Even if they had been, the wooden construction is labour-intensive, while the Germans were doing everything possible to reduce the labour needed to produce their aircrafts.
Perhaps because the "myth" has authoritative support
...and is based on some fairly simple observation. Pieces of aluminum can be directly printed by a press. Each piece of wood and / or plywood must be sawn and / or bent into the right shape by a worker. Furthermore, at the end of assembly, the aluminum should be just painted, while the plywood must first be covered with glued fabric, another work that must be done by hand (and that, thereafter, makes repairs more difficult).
Obviously you haven't seen the photos of the mass production lines.....
Totaly agree
Have felt for a while an anti British has developed in these sort of threads.
Any British design is dismisssed and Lufwtwaffe development projects promoted as being able to be put into production at a moments notice.
I believe the Mosquito would have done very well for the Luftwaffe but think they might have done just as well ditching numerus projects and concentrating on the Ju88, like the Mosquito another outstanding aircraft
Fact: when introduced, the Mosquito had twice the loss rate than other ordinary twin engined bombers. Doesn't seem to me its speed was such a great defense. In the end, it had to employ the same tactics as other RAF bombers: to hide in the dark and avoid LW's SE day fighters completely.
Fact: it achieved marvelously low loss rate when nobody was flying to intercept it, i.e. at the end of the war.
Fantasy vs reality is not relevant
Anyway I have still the question, if it is possible for a Mossie to carry "Schräge Musik"?
I hear you, but to be totally honest I also believe a reaction has set in as well. The flip side to all this "British Bashing" is the total trashing of things German.
We all need to develop a litle respect for viewpoints that are not in alignment with our own, and act a little more maturely when it comes to respecting other peoples beliefs.
I count myself in that need to rethink.
I take it you have definitive information confirming this, because I know that Germany had more indigenous forest available during the 1940s than just about any other West European country, not to mention wood from Finland and all the other occupied countries. As for the types of woodnly wood Germany might have had trouble getting was balsa.
and that was pretty much the key.
from Wiki;
"Balsa trees are native to southern Brazil and Bolivia north to southern Mexico."
" but is now found in many other countries (Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, Thailand, Solomon Islands)"
"Ecuador supplies 95 percent or more of commercial balsa. In recent years, about 60 percent of the balsa has been plantation grown in densely packed patches of around 1000 trees per hectare (compared to about two to three per hectare in nature)"
Germany had no hope of getting large supplies of Balsa and England did NOT make Mosquitoes because they had "wood" in England.
and that was pretty much the key.
from Wiki;
"Balsa trees are native to southern Brazil and Bolivia north to southern Mexico."
" but is now found in many other countries (Papua New Guinea, Indonesia, Thailand, Solomon Islands)"
"Ecuador supplies 95 percent or more of commercial balsa. In recent years, about 60 percent of the balsa has been plantation grown in densely packed patches of around 1000 trees per hectare (compared to about two to three per hectare in nature)"
Germany had no hope of getting large supplies of Balsa and England did NOT make Mosquitoes because they had "wood" in England.
The photos of Mossie's mass production lines show wooden spars and plywood panels come out, hundreds of pieces per hour, by a press, and the fabric covering be laid by industrial robots? Otherwise obviously you haven't understood a word of what I wrote.Obviously you haven't seen the photos of the mass production lines.....
I think you have very little knowledge of what "capital intensive" and "labour intensive" means. The fact of seeing many planes lined up in various stages of completion, on an assembly line, do not say anything about the relative capital-intensity of a production. It tells you just that they are coming out of an assembly line. The assembly line is used to optimize the amount of labor and capital used, but different productions in assembly line have different capital-intensity.I think you have one of those pictures in your mind of a bunch of cabinet makers,
Anyway I have still the question, if it is possible for a Mossie to carry "Schräge Musik"?
As for for "Schräge Musik", no need. For defence as a night fighter is was up against light bombers like Ju-88s or Me-210s and 410s ... or FW-190s.
"Schräge Musik" is an attack weapon not to defend. The "Schräge Musik" was developed to go under the bomber and shoot right in to the wings and engines and it was very successfull. So to be a german nightfighter it would be good to carry "Schräge Musik".
Yeah, huge forests of balsa and douglas fir, both required for the Mossie.I take it you have definitive information confirming this, because I know that Germany had more indigenous forest available during the 1940s than just about any other West European country,
And that's the key, since the initial question was: "If, in 1940, after the flight of the Mosquito prototype, the Germans had been offered the type would they have been wise to take it and abandon all the rest?". The type De Havilland could offer in 1940 requires balsa ("Hagg created a light, strong, very streamlined structure by sandwiching 9.5mm Ecuadorian balsa wood between Canadian birch plywood skins that varied in thickness from 4.5mm to 6mm" balsa was not an element of secondary importance in Mossies' construction) and douglas fir. We already know that the Germans have not made a redesigned Mosquito using different woods (unless you consider that the TA-154, and then we know what could happen trying to build a Mosquito with different woods).The lack of balsa might have been a problem had the Germans used the same construction techniques as de havilland
But who said a word about Britain? The question is about a German production.Doesn't really make much odds; Britain had large numbers of experienced wood workers...
Infact. owning a furniture store from three generations, what can I know about woodworking?I guess you haven't seen a woodworking factory
Have you a clue about what labour-intensive and capital-intensive production means? It has nothing to do with "hard", "poor", "primitive", or whatever you are saying. It just means that even in order to do the same thing at the same price in the same time, it may take an hour of work, with a tooling of a certain value, or two hours of work, with a tooling of another value.Canadians and Australians managed to build over 7,800 Mosquitos, in spite of the poor, hard-done-by workers having to use manual labour.
requires balsa and douglas fir.