cheddar cheese
Major General
Gordon bennett lanc, we're not talking about that any more!
Most Dangerous Position on a Bomber....?
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MichaelHenley
Senior Airman
Is gordon bennett a new swear word 
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cheddar cheese
Major General
Nope, he was a famous Britsh racing driver in the early 1900's, and his name lives on throught the British Isles as a kind of "mild blasphemy" 
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
But we are talking dive bombers. As for the position differig for bober types and builders, that is whay we are talking about it yes! In a dive one might not have much, but I have not found information for or against it yet,other then the floating bit.
MichaelHenley
Senior Airman
From what height would a stuka start a dive? And does anyone have a recording of the sirens that they used?
cheddar cheese
Major General
I seem to recall they started their dive from about 5000ft, but im not sure.
evangilder
"Shooter"
I don't have a recording, but they were called "Horns of Jericho". You might search for that.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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i've never heard it clearly i don't think...............
cheddar cheese
Major General
Ive got a pretty good recall of what they sound like.
Maestro
Master Sergeant
Is it what you're talking about ?
(Taken from Combat Flight Simulator 1.)
(Taken from Combat Flight Simulator 1.)
GermansRGeniuses
Tech Sergeant
Nope, that's an air-raid siren...
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Maestro
Master Sergeant
No, thanks. I like my current one. I appreciate the offer though.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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that screenhot's from CFS1 i believe?? i have that game and it's not bad but i'm hoping to get either CFS3 or IL2 when i get a computer upgrade...................
MP-Willow
Staff Sergeant
So any thoughts on the Stukas? 5000 ft seems low to me?
JCS
Senior Airman
I had a few recordings of the sirens on the Stuka I would've posted, but I lost ALL my files yesterday. 
This POS computer wouldnt start up so I had to reinstall windows.
This POS computer wouldnt start up so I had to reinstall windows.
JCS
Senior Airman
Heres one I just found:
HealzDevo
Staff Sergeant
I know that on the B-17, the Lancaster and those bombers that did have the tail gunners that their life expectancy was measured in days rather than weeks during the heavy German fighter attacks of 1942-1943. The Germans would approach the bomber from the tail hoping to kill it. Therefore the tail gunner was the most dangerous position. Many people died in the missions over Europe as tail gunners. It wasn't until 1944-1945 that the tail gunners position became a bit safer due to the destruction of a lot of German fighters on the ground and in the air by the Allies, as well as the introduction of better fighter escort planes for bomber crews. I rest my case for the tail gunner being the most dangerous position in a bomber in general.
HealzDevo
Staff Sergeant
I agree with the idea of building replicas, as they allow the testing of different scenarios and answers to some questions. It is wondered how a Zero would have stood up to an early war Spitfire. I know the zeros were bad but both planes were highly maneovurable. It also allows us to really test the manevourability of some of these fighters and bombers to the limit. All we really know about the limitations of these fighters is what is published and even then in the WW2 publications I suspect that while the war was going on the performance of the fighters and bombers may have been understated to protect them. Also there are some German prototypes that were on the drawing board that may be worth making replicas of and we can then see and get an idea of how dangerous different bomber positions can be through the use of these replicas in realistic mission target ideas.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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but the thing with a replica is you wont know if it perferms the same as the original, and the only way to find out is to test the original to the limit, don't get me wrong, i'm all for replicas, i'm just saying you should dtill fly an original if you still have it, there's no point in keeping it on the ground.....................
and whilst i see your point with the tail gunner, if a lanc went down he had the best chance of getting out mid air, and the most dangerous possistion on an american bomber would be the ball turret (that's why i said you had to be specific, you couldn't just say "which bomber" because not all had every gun posistion) because they had a habbit of simply falling out for no reason, even if they hadn't been hit, they were small, cramp and uncomfortable and you would have to stay there for hours on end..............
and whilst i see your point with the tail gunner, if a lanc went down he had the best chance of getting out mid air, and the most dangerous possistion on an american bomber would be the ball turret (that's why i said you had to be specific, you couldn't just say "which bomber" because not all had every gun posistion) because they had a habbit of simply falling out for no reason, even if they hadn't been hit, they were small, cramp and uncomfortable and you would have to stay there for hours on end..............
cheddar cheese
Major General
Only the early turrets randomly fell out, the problem was overcame later in the war.
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