Thats not the part I am talking about, although I do think you are exaggerating that as well.
Although we probably are both exaggerating...
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Well is there some way Germany could have won that maybe I am not aware of? I always like to believe that I could be wrong and can earn from it.
Like everyone else in the thread, you're entitled to your opinion.Me: B-29.
Reality: it was a fussy temperamental plane more likely to kill you than the Japanese fighters scrambling against you.
Legend: it dropped the 2 Atomic bombs that ended WWII.
Never mind that the IJN government, military, and people were going to fight us tooth and nail for every yard of rice paddy, with sharpened bamboo and sharpened teeth.
Never mind the Soviet destruction of the Kwantung Army in Manchuria in almost no time at all, and never mind that the REAL fear and realization of the Japanese was that the Soviets were poised to absorb and erase the Japanese people and nation.
Refrain: It was the B-29 and the A-Bomb! (repeat until believed).
Wrong. According to the USAF, P-80A (44-85642) unpainted was the fastest of the WARTIME era P-80s...not POSTWAR P-80s, like the P-80C.How about the ME 262? German fanboys will constantly bark about how it could have won the war, when it engines flamed out at 10-20 hours, it was vulnerable in turns where the P-51 could shoot it down(Chuck Yeager shot two of them down) and even then, the Allies would have just introduced the P-80 Shooting Star, a much more reliable, much faster plane and of course it pilots would be trained on how to use it.
If you'd take a little time to read about the late war situation in Germany, you'd then know it was dire. No fuel, no rubber and other essentials so that pilot training was limited mostly to short ground school. Pilot attrition also meant that the Luftwaffe was desperate to get pilots into action in a short amount of time.Don't tell me how ME 262 pilots had nothing more than a dozen hours of training flying that thing.
Like everyone else in the thread, you're entitled to your opinion.
<wiki> [T]est pilot Major Frederic Borsodi was killed in a crash caused by an engine fire demonstrating a YP-80A (44-83026) at RAF Burtonwood, Lancashire, England, on 28 January 1945, the YP-80A was temporarily grounded </wiki>Wasn't the war time P-80 grounded during the war after a few pilots died flying it?
Eh, German fanboys are much more cringey than American fanboys. Constantly harping about how the war could have been won.
Is that a yes?<wiki> [T]est pilot Major Frederic Borsodi was killed in a crash caused by an engine fire demonstrating a YP-80A (44-83026) at RAF Burtonwood, Lancashire, England, on 28 January 1945, the YP-80A was temporarily grounded </wiki>
Pilots killed (Burchman & Bong) before P-80's were deployed). <wiki> "Both Burcham and Bong crashed as a result of main fuel pump failure. Burcham's death was the result of a failure to brief him on a newly installed emergency fuel pump backup system, but the investigation of Bong's crash found that he had apparently forgotten to switch on this pump, which could have prevented the accident. " </wiki>
Possibly because many of them seem to yearn for a world when the nazis won. They're even worse than the lost cause nut jobs.
That's because they became what they were or didn't at all nothing stopped their development. You can fantasise about what music Buddy Holly would have produced but not Paul McCartney.I don't think it's a yearning for a world where Nazis won, it's more of an obsession of the fantastic - the odd and almost sci-fi quality of many of the German what-ifs.
The U.S. had quite a few of those, but oddly enough, there doesn't seem to be as much fascination.
Well, just for giggles, imagine this.Well is there some way Germany could have won that maybe I am not aware of?
Meh, merely me expressing my opinion about his opinion. I happen to disagree with him, I don't think the B-29 was prone to killing it's crews etc. which is my opinion.What is there to dislike about this post? Isn't everyone entitled to an opinion. And the B-29 being overrated or not is a matter of opinion is it not?
Depends on your timeframe of reference. The B29 was a bunch of newfangled ideas, stretched to (or beyond) the limits of their current technologies and expected to perform en masse at the limits of their ability, while still getting sorted out. Naturally there were casualties. Early on, the casualties were rather heavy. By VJ day, the B29 was closing in on "well oiled machine" status. Postwar, it became a workhorse, forming the backbone of the strategic bombing fleet until the jets took over, way outnumbering the B36 force.I don't think the B-29 was prone to killing it's crews
I don't think it's a yearning for a world where Nazis won, it's more of an obsession of the fantastic - the odd and almost sci-fi quality of many of the German what-ifs.
The U.S. had quite a few of those, but oddly enough, there doesn't seem to be as much fascination.
This is typical of post war views of the war. What actually was done is less impressive than fantasy scenarios of what could have been done in a different war. Did the Nazi regime have a weapon that would disable their submarine pens and sink their best battleship with a single or few hits? Making a submarine so unsafe below water that the commanders were instructed to "duke it out" with aircraft rather than dive. Shooting down German night fighters close to their home airfield purely for psychological effect. De coding what was considered the most complex military code at the time "in real time". These are just a few of the fantasies that were done. When Germany invaded Poland a single engine fighter that could fly to Berlin, fight for 20 minutes and then return to UK was fantasy, when that fantasy became reality Goering knew the gig was over.No one can deny that the Germans had a heckuva lot of rather fantastic ideas, and the technological know-how to do most of them. They didn't have the resources to fulfill their obviously talented brains, nor the time to do it. The US DID have the time, resources and brains to do it, which is why, in part, the Allies won. The Soviets had massive manpower, and the will to let them die to win. There's just no way the Germans could have won, regardless of their technological expertise. It always seemed to me that if there two ways of doing things, the Germans would take the "busy" road, making things a lot more complicated than necessary to get things done.
The Allied side more or less took the Stalin way of thinking, "Quantity has a quality of it's own".
Meh, merely me expressing my opinion about his opinion. I happen to disagree with him, I don't think the B-29 was prone to killing it's crews etc. which is my opinion.