Nazi gold train found ?

[fubar57]

There is a 4th photo other than the 3 Steve posted....

The site is in German dated Oct 23rd Mysterieuze foto's van nazitrein in Polen|Binnenland| Telegraaf.nl


Geo

 

[GrauGeist]

The bar has to be a painted fake. Look closely at the end and you can clearly see what has to be the grain of the wood. Also the train looks more like a movie set than an actual train.

Whatever the ingot material is, it's a "cold pour", meaning the material's temperature was at the lower end of of it's pouring range, causing "layers". You can see that occur especially in Aluminum as it will cool rapidly if the mold draws the heat away too quickly.

When pouring Silver and other low melting temp material, the mold should be preheated to allow an even flow and prevent the "layering".

 

[Airframes]

We need Marcel to translate - the article is in Dutch, and won't translate via the link's translation 'button'.

 

[fubar57]

Apologies to Marcel. Terry, if you are inclined, this add-on from Firefox has a translate function..https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flagfox/ You just right click on the flag that is in the search bar and a dropbox will appear with a list of options, translate being one of them. I was able to translate the page using it. It's still a dorky Google Translate which, 9 times out of 10 will need the English version of the page deciphered.



Geo

 

[Airframes]

Thanks Geo.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Those photos are either terrible quality or fakes. At least that is my initial impression.
I so want them to be real though.

 

[Gnomey]

Yeah, that's my impression to Chris...

 

[Airframes]

Had a second look, and the 'train' looks more like one of those used on the underground systems of large Postal service depots, or some very large military storage complex. Certainly looks fake - especially the very clean, new-looking black crosses !

 

[Marcel]

Geo, the Telegraaf is not Netherlands' most reliable source. They are not tabloid, but coming close. It says that "experts agree that the model is the same as a German Panzer train" so the model might be correct. They don't claim it to be genuin, though.

The site is in German dated Oct 23rd Mysterieuze foto's van nazitrein in Polen|Binnenland| Telegraaf.nl


Geo

Oh and it is in Dutch, not German, though. German is very different from Dutch, they confuse sea with meer for instance

 

[bobbysocks]

Inspectors Begin Search for Nazi 'Gold Train' - ABC News

In a remote, wooded, and hilly area of southwest Poland, within a labyrinth of tunnels, a secret train filled with treasure may have finally been discovered after extensive searches by hunters, historians and conspiracy theorists.

Inspectors will start examining the site where a "Nazi gold train" was claimed to have been found this summer. Two men said they have found one of the long-lost trains –- experts believe there are three –- in August.

The trains could be filled with looted artwork, documents, artifacts, and gold worth millions of dollars. The "gold train" search will begin in Walbrzych, a city in southwest Poland. Some historians say that the trains disappeared as the Red Army gained momentum near the Czech border. The area was also home to Project Riese, a complex network of Nazi tunnels and weapons programs. There are no existing plans, records, or witnesses to the project.

Piotr Koper, 44, said he and his friend located the train using radars after receiving a tip from a local miner. They are asking for 10 percent of the value of the artifacts and goods found on the train. Some experts, like historian Joanna Lamparska, question the men's story.

"Every five years the news appears that we are now close, we're at the entrance of the tunnel and we'll soon get inside," Lamparska told ABC News.

"[The tunnels under the mountains of Walbrzych] could be part of any old mines," Historian Bartosz Rdultowski told The New York Times. "Before the war, there were about 200 of them here."

Until this summer's potential discovery, the fiscally-strapped regional government of Walbrzych did not have the funds or incentive to spend money on what some consider to be a wild goose chase.

Arkadiusz Grudzien, a spokesman for the mayor of Walbrzych, told ABC News that the non-invasive inspection will be conducted by the reputable Krakow Mining and Metallurgy Academy. The Academy said it expects to conclude the data collection by the end of this month, weather permitting. If the results are promising, an excavation attempt will be made probably in early spring, when there's no snow on the ground.

Locals in Walbrzych have taken advantage of the rush of tourists and treasure hunters into the area by selling mementos with gold train references.

 

[GrauGeist]

I find this part particularly interesting:

Until this summer's potential discovery, the fiscally-strapped regional government of Walbrzych did not have the funds or incentive to spend money on what some consider to be a wild goose chase.

As there were steady updates and interviews and so on...then all of a sudden, the tone of the officials being interviewed changed or ceased and the news updates stopped.

So the big question is: who really stands to gain *if* that train is found...

 

[Gnomey]

Well everybody is going to want a piece of the pie at the end of the day...

 

[bobbysocks]

I found that quite interesting myself. could have been a ruse by local leaders to get some quick cash.

 

[Airframes]

Latest rumour is that the train was moved, in April 1945, to somewhere in Burma, where it was buried ...................

 

[Capt. Vick]

Ah, so the Spitfires are buried in Poland! Make total sense now.

 

[Airframes]

No, it was the batch of Focke Wulf Fw-190D-13s that were hidden in Poland - the Spitfires were moved to Bermuda, but somehow disappeared on the way there.....

 

[GrauGeist]

At least someone has been finding Nazi gold...

(lucky bastard!)

Aftermath of War - Archaeology Magazine

 

[Gnomey]

Just not in a train or in Poland...

 

[Capt. Vick]

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

So you think the Polish authorities would have started digging by now...