Olive drab!

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  1. Wildcat

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    Gents, what is the correct colour for olive drab?? My recently built B-25 (Tamiya spray can) is more of a green compared to my P-40 (Humbrol enamel) which is more brownish. Which is more accurate?? IMG_2823.JPG IMG_2825.JPG
     
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    To add to the mix my Vallejo paint for Olive Drab is quite a bit "browner" than your P-40 Andy !
    Used it here on the rear fuselage of this Dora.

    Glad my B-26 is going to be NMF ! :lol:
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    They're both more or less correct, although the B-25 looks more towards Forest Green (Foliage Green ?).
    Depending on how 'new' the paint was, it could be anything from a dark green with a brown tinge, through brownish green to almost purple, as it faded and weathered quickly.
    Here's a couple of examples, on the C-47 at Duxford, and the B-17g at Duxford. The latter had just been re-painted, and had looked more like the C-47 in tone. Czech 169.jpg DSCF0123.JPG
     
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    Yep, I don't get too fussed about the "correct" colour for OD as I've read that it weathers quite a bit and can range from a light brown/green to a much darker shade. FWIW, here's my Aussie P-40:

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    Hhmmm.
    My vallejo might not be far off then !
     
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    The problem with any and all forum discussions about color and posting of pictures is simply that the picture itself is NOT the color it is a representation of the color whose trueness to the actual color depends on the camera settings. Then those pictures are posted to the forum and are viewed by you on a color monitor which also has its own color settings and manufacture limitations. Throw into the mix that your eyes are not mine or anyone else's, i.e. none of us really "knows" what the other is actually seeing. At some point in time someone pointed to an object and told you, "that's RED". From that point on every time you saw that you said "RED". Even more subjective is language:
    Olive drab is variously described as a "dull olive-green color" (Oxford English Dictionary);"a shade of greenish-brown" (Webster's New World Dictionary); "a dark gray-green" (MacMillan English dictionary); "a grayish olive to dark olive brown or olive gray (American Heritage Dictionary); or "A dull but fairly strong gray-green color" (Collins English Dictionary).
    What does "more brownish" or "more greenish" mean to you.
    In the US, contractors obtain official Federal Standard "chips" (595C 3X5 cards) and the color is matched using a spectrophotometer to actually measure the wavelength of the light reflected by the paint. The type of light falling on the paint also determines what is reflected. Go to any good paint store and you can view their paint chips under several different types of lighting and observe the way the color changes.
     
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    Exactly!

    From what I've read and heard, the OD paint (and most other paint) faded quickly in the tropical or desert sun.

    in my personal experiences, the non-glossy or primer types will fade very quickly (oxidize) so the appearances of OD aircraft in theater could vary depending on the length of time they've been there.

    If you look closely at the old color photos of assembled P-40s, like on the flightline for example, in the PTO, they weren't all the same shade of OD.
     
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    Hmm, thanks for the reply's guys. Seeing as there is no "right" answer, I shall continue to use the Tamiya spray can version!
     
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    Just be aware that when the Model Aircraft Police come a-knocking with their Official Federal Standard chips and spectrophotometer you could be found in non-compliance and fined or worse!
     
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    Bring em on. They'll have to pry my spray cans from my cold dead hands! :lol:
     
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    Olive Drab.....now there's a can of worms to open....
     
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    ...to which the answer should always be: "Show me your proof that I am wrong".
     
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    Is that another way of saying F' off....
     
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    to add to the confusion didn't the olive ones in the desert sometimes fade into a pinkish shade?
     
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    I think that was the 'sand' coloured paint that faded to pink.
     
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