P-38 Thunder

• Apr 3, 2015

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GregP

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OK, you've heard of the P-38 Lightning, but have you ever heard of the Thunder?



Never made it into squadron service, though ...

 

• Apr 3, 2015

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So who had the "double" idea first?
- North American F-82 Twin Mustang
- Messerschmitt Me 609
- Lockheed Thunder
- Others?

 

• Apr 3, 2015

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Blackburn 'Twin Blackburn', 1915. Long range anti-zeppelin seaplane.

 

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• Apr 3, 2015

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Wasn't that a fake one for some ad agency (or something like that)?

 

• Apr 3, 2015

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And that's a ship borne torpedo, did you get this off of DeviantArt?

 

• Apr 3, 2015

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You sure that's not a late April fool joke ?

With the wing spars going right thru that part of the nacelles, all the piping for the coolant, the exhaust to the turbo, AND the return ductwork from the turbo. I just don't see how you could put a pilot where all this other equipment has to go.

Plus, where's the nose gear???

 

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• Apr 3, 2015

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From this site...Stargazer's gallery of imaginary aircraft! © AviaDesign 2009-2014 12 rows down, left side, with commentary.

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• Apr 4, 2015

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tyrodtom said:

You sure that's not a late April fool joke ?

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Good one, but ... a couple days late.

With the wing spars going right thru that part of the nacelles, all the piping for the coolant, the exhaust to the turbo, AND the return ductwork from the turbo. I just don't see how you could put a pilot where all this other equipment has to go.

Plus, where's the nose gear???

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And the pilots/canopies are scaled down. P-38 nacelles are pretty tight and narrower than the center gondola's cockpit section.

On a slightly serious note, the P-40 would be a better basis for that sort of configuration.

 

• Apr 4, 2015

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HAS to be a fake. Otherwise how would you ever get the exhaust to the turbocharger? Having worked on several P-38's I can tell you there is a LOT of stuff where the cockpit is located above.

The pilot's butt and the main gear will occupy the same space, too.

But it's a pretty good fake, isn't it?

I think it was from deviantart, but merely posted it when I stumbled across it. Too good a job to pass up.

 

• Apr 4, 2015

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gjs238 said:

So who had the "double" idea first?
- North American F-82 Twin Mustang
- Messerschmitt Me 609
- Lockheed Thunder
- Others?

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P-38 first flight: January 1939
P-61 first flight: May 1942
SM.92 first flight: October 1943
Bf109Z built, damaged in air raid before flight testing 1943
Me609 never built
F-82 first flight: June 1945

 

• Apr 4, 2015

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A torpedo without rudder? It seems something else generally used for medicament, rather than a weapon.....

 

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• Apr 4, 2015

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Elmas said:

A torpedo without rudder? It seems something else generally used for medicament, rather than a weapon.....

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She writes that she found a picture of the torpedo on the web.

Geo

 

• Apr 4, 2015

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That's not a Torpedo, it's beer keg ...

 

• Apr 4, 2015

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Yes, to be used to replenish the beer provision to U.S. garrisons in the most remote Pacific Islands, even the tiniest without a landing strip: all you have to do is to launch the torpedo keg.

Technology goes on in comparison to those coarse barrels under the Spit wings.....

 

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• Apr 4, 2015

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just don't look right....

 

• Apr 4, 2015

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Big clue beneath the picture, in the form of the Copyright details.

 

• Apr 5, 2015

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GregP

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I nsuppose photoshop only let's you doi so much ...

 

• Apr 5, 2015

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• Apr 5, 2015

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fubar57

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GregP said:

I nsuppose photoshop only let's you doi so much ...

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From her site, with the original photo...



Geo

 

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• Apr 5, 2015

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Let me throw-in the He 111Z, apparantly first flew in 42/43. Not a fighter though.