P-38 Thunder

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  1. GregP

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    OK, you've heard of the P-38 Lightning, but have you ever heard of the Thunder?

    P38 Thunder.jpg

    Never made it into squadron service, though ...
     
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    So who had the "double" idea first?
    - North American F-82 Twin Mustang
    - Messerschmitt Me 609
    - Lockheed Thunder
    - Others?
     
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    #3 ScreamingLighting, Apr 3, 2015
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    Blackburn 'Twin Blackburn', 1915. Long range anti-zeppelin seaplane.
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    Wasn't that a fake one for some ad agency (or something like that)?
     
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    And that's a ship borne torpedo, did you get this off of DeviantArt?
     
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    #6 tyrodtom, Apr 3, 2015
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    You sure that's not a late April fool joke ?

    With the wing spars going right thru that part of the nacelles, all the piping for the coolant, the exhaust to the turbo, AND the return ductwork from the turbo. I just don't see how you could put a pilot where all this other equipment has to go.

    Plus, where's the nose gear???
     
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    Good one, but ... a couple days late.

    And the pilots/canopies are scaled down. P-38 nacelles are pretty tight and narrower than the center gondola's cockpit section.

    On a slightly serious note, the P-40 would be a better basis for that sort of configuration.
     
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    HAS to be a fake. Otherwise how would you ever get the exhaust to the turbocharger? Having worked on several P-38's I can tell you there is a LOT of stuff where the cockpit is located above.

    The pilot's butt and the main gear will occupy the same space, too.

    But it's a pretty good fake, isn't it?

    I think it was from deviantart, but merely posted it when I stumbled across it. Too good a job to pass up.
     
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    P-38 first flight: January 1939
    P-61 first flight: May 1942
    SM.92 first flight: October 1943
    Bf109Z built, damaged in air raid before flight testing 1943
    Me609 never built
    F-82 first flight: June 1945
     
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    #11 Elmas, Apr 4, 2015
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    A torpedo without rudder? It seems something else generally used for medicament, rather than a weapon.....
     
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    She writes that she found a picture of the torpedo on the web.

    Geo
     
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    That's not a Torpedo, it's beer keg ...
     
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    #14 Elmas, Apr 4, 2015
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    [​IMG]

    Yes, to be used to replenish the beer provision to U.S. garrisons in the most remote Pacific Islands, even the tiniest without a landing strip: all you have to do is to launch the torpedo keg.

    Technology goes on in comparison to those coarse barrels under the Spit wings.....
     
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    just don't look right....
     
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    Big clue beneath the picture, in the form of the Copyright details.
     
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    I nsuppose photoshop only let's you doi so much ...
     
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    #19 fubar57, Apr 5, 2015
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    From her site, with the original photo...

    Untitled.jpg lockheed-lightning-1.jpg

    Geo
     
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    Let me throw-in the He 111Z, apparantly first flew in 42/43. Not a fighter though.
     
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