P51D/K vs Me109K-14

Which would win?

  • Kurfurst

    Votes: 50 35.7%
  • Mustang

    Votes: 54 38.6%
  • Draw

    Votes: 9 6.4%
  • Impossible to say

    Votes: 27 19.3%

  • Total voters
    140

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Me 109 K4 better then P51 D? I am doubt about that.

As you now, Me 109 had a engine with 2 stage compresor and P 51 D had a 4 stage compresor. Me 109 could flight at 10.000 meter altitude maxim, altough P51 D came over 11.500 meter - it has supercharger. That mean match engine power (speed cumulated)
 
loomaluftwaffe said:
what happenned anyways when a model is phased out for a later one... like where did all the Bf109Es go when the Gs went into service? they were sent to the scrap metal?

As Les said training schools, and some were still used in front line service. For instance II/SG 1 still used Bf-109E-7/B in Stalingrad in 1943.
 

And the K-4 used MW-50 and reach 727kmh without a supercharger.
 
ricardox said:
the p51 was rated as the best fighter plane of all time!!!
You need to read some of the threads in information provided in this thread. many other aircraft OUTPERFORMED the P-51 including many German aircraft. Turn off Discovery Wings for a few hours and read some of the threads before shooting off your mouth....
 


Thanks Joe,

I have this gag reflex that bugs me when people always just say " P-51 was best fighter in WW2". Its a pet peeve, it drives me crazy. Most times (99%) they have no idea what they are talking about, like you say they have just watched too many TV shows. P-51 was a great plane for the role that it preformed (aka long range escort fighter). Thats what he should of said.
 
sorry to say this ........... but ............ polls like this are absoloutely worthless. Putting in the hands of test pilots at wars end will give you the tech graphs you so desire but not under actual combat experiences which during late war for the Luftw. is hard enough as they were only interested in surviving and not noting just how nimble the P-51D or K or ? was . It is all up to pilot skill who will come out on top
 
Just a noob putting in another two cents worth, but I've always said that in a dogfight, it's seventy-five percent the pilot and twenty-five percent the aircraft. That's without factoring in conditions of how the fight comes about.

Either way, it'd be one helluva fight to have filmed, eh? 8)
 
And I would agree with you for the most part, unless you are talking Bf-109G vs. P-26. Then pilot skill does not factor that much because the Peashooter is going down.
 
I am still bugged by the continuous desire to compare the P-51D to aircraft that came out a year or more after it and that probably were specifically designed to to combat it. That was a generation of aircraft design in those prolific days. It is like comparing the F-4 to the F-15. I have read many good dicsussions on the comparisons of the P-51 to the P-38, F4U, FW190D (although the F4U-4 and 190D were a good six months after the P-51D). Comparing it to a K4 is not relevant. Most of these advance aircraft barely made it into the air, much less into the war. Please keep the sides equal.

Also, the P-51K performed less than the D. I think the orginator meant the P-51H.
 

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