Aldha_wolf
Recruit
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- Oct 22, 2019
I am wanting to acquire plans and schematics for a P51 D mustang. I am not to educated im how to acquire them if even possible, id greatly appreciate any help
P51D schematics
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fubar57
General
Cant go past Stang4Me,s CAD plans for the P51
P-51D, F-16C & F/A-18C CAD Plans by Stang
P-51D, F-16C & F/A-18C CAD Plans by Stang
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Or you can join WWII Era Military Blueprints & Manuals | AirCorps Library and get the factory technical drawings. If you want schematics they are in the manuals on the same site.
Schematic - Wikipedia
Schematic - Wikipedia
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The Schematic's in the manuals were drawn by North American and are included in the Aircorps Library if you happen to know the drawing number. For example: 106-52014.
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MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
If you want to understand the Technical Drawings (blueprints) try this link.
Aircraft blueprint reading
Aircraft blueprint reading
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Rob
I have been in the aviation industry since February 1962 and doing restorations since 1963.
Using modern definitions, Schematics are a representation of the elements of a system using abstract graphic symbols rather than realistic pictures. A schematic usually omits all details that are not relevant to the key information the schematic is intended to convey, and may include oversimplified elements in order to make this essential meaning easier to grasp.
Using the approximate WW2 definition. Schematics are a representation of the interrelated parts of a system using abstract pictures. A schematic usually omits all details that are not relevant to the key information the schematic is intended to convey, and may include oversimplified elements in order to make this essential meaning easier to grasp.
These are typical P-51 schematics.
This is a Technical Drawing, previously known as a Blueprint and never as a Schematic. This particular part was used in most NAA aircraft starting with the NA-19 (BT-9) through to the P-51. It was superseded by the almost identical standard part 2C25 in May 43 and continued in use for years on many aircraft.
I have been in the aviation industry since February 1962 and doing restorations since 1963.
Using modern definitions, Schematics are a representation of the elements of a system using abstract graphic symbols rather than realistic pictures. A schematic usually omits all details that are not relevant to the key information the schematic is intended to convey, and may include oversimplified elements in order to make this essential meaning easier to grasp.
Using the approximate WW2 definition. Schematics are a representation of the interrelated parts of a system using abstract pictures. A schematic usually omits all details that are not relevant to the key information the schematic is intended to convey, and may include oversimplified elements in order to make this essential meaning easier to grasp.
These are typical P-51 schematics.
This is a Technical Drawing, previously known as a Blueprint and never as a Schematic. This particular part was used in most NAA aircraft starting with the NA-19 (BT-9) through to the P-51. It was superseded by the almost identical standard part 2C25 in May 43 and continued in use for years on many aircraft.
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MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
No sweat. We all make mistakes, you with the post and me with the interpretation of your post.
It needed saying anyway as the number of people who mistake the various terms is very large - though thankfully not as large as the group that think part numbers are called serial numbers.
It needed saying anyway as the number of people who mistake the various terms is very large - though thankfully not as large as the group that think part numbers are called serial numbers.
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drgondog
Major
If you are doing research on NAA Design drawings, you should obtain a copy of NA-106 drawing 106-000002 "P-51D Major Assem. Breakdown". AeroLibrary (my phrase for aircorpslibrary.com) has this. EDIT
On the drawing is a Work Breakdown 'tree' of 106-00002 Airplane Assem. Under this block are all the major design groupings NAA used to provide an engineer a roadmap to seek Installation, Assembly, Detail parts for Wing Group; Landing Gear; Electrical Wiring; Instruments; Fuselage Forward; Fuselage Aft; Bomb Rack; Radio Equipmen; Power Plant and Hydraulic Systems.
Below the top Installation blocks above, are the individual installations and assemblies top drawings which make up a completed major Installation (i.e.. Wing, Aileron, Flaps, Armament Mounts, Landing Lights, etc).
ALL Major US airframe companies used a 'similar' scheme for the Major Assembly Breakdowns, but few were as well organzed and consistent in scheme. I found Lockheed and Republic both to be much more difficult to research. This drawing was dated 15 March 1943 when the P-51D 'concept' began as six gun, birdcage canopy extension of NA-104 P-51B-5-NA and morphed to six gun, 'cokpit enclosure, sliding' bubble canopy by the eend of July. As you research the P-51D drawing changes which paralleled discussions between NAA and Materiel Command, you will see illustrations of both, then the revisions on 106-9000002 to reflect the changes (i.e. Aft Frame of P-51B-5 (NA-104) as rear deck was modified, framed canopy replaced by sliding bubble canopy) which are shown as installation drawings with 'dotted' lines for the 'older P-51B installations'.
On the drawing is a Work Breakdown 'tree' of 106-00002 Airplane Assem. Under this block are all the major design groupings NAA used to provide an engineer a roadmap to seek Installation, Assembly, Detail parts for Wing Group; Landing Gear; Electrical Wiring; Instruments; Fuselage Forward; Fuselage Aft; Bomb Rack; Radio Equipmen; Power Plant and Hydraulic Systems.
Below the top Installation blocks above, are the individual installations and assemblies top drawings which make up a completed major Installation (i.e.. Wing, Aileron, Flaps, Armament Mounts, Landing Lights, etc).
ALL Major US airframe companies used a 'similar' scheme for the Major Assembly Breakdowns, but few were as well organzed and consistent in scheme. I found Lockheed and Republic both to be much more difficult to research. This drawing was dated 15 March 1943 when the P-51D 'concept' began as six gun, birdcage canopy extension of NA-104 P-51B-5-NA and morphed to six gun, 'cokpit enclosure, sliding' bubble canopy by the eend of July. As you research the P-51D drawing changes which paralleled discussions between NAA and Materiel Command, you will see illustrations of both, then the revisions on 106-9000002 to reflect the changes (i.e. Aft Frame of P-51B-5 (NA-104) as rear deck was modified, framed canopy replaced by sliding bubble canopy) which are shown as installation drawings with 'dotted' lines for the 'older P-51B installations'.
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MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
I am not familiar with Aerolibrary as I do not use Farsebook but AirCorps Library has what is probably similar material. This shows a selection of the airframes they cover
North American had a similar but simplified chart in the front of many of their manuals going back at least to the T-6 series (and CAC in Aus had the same thing in some CA-1 Wirraway manuals circa 1938/39) but the more interesting charts to me are the ones in Tech Order 01-60-3, Structural Repair Instructions for A-36 Series and P-51, 15-June-1945 as it shows the growth of the aircraft through the series starting with the Mustang 1 where every major assembly has a 73- prefix through the D where there is a mix of 73, 97, 99, 102, and 106 numbers. What is not reflected in these charts however are the 19- (BT-9) and similar numbers that flowed through to the P-51 and other aircraft like B-25 though these do show up in the stock lists (this one is post war so does not show the BC and BT models)
From a T-6 manual
From another manual
From the CAC manual
North American had a similar but simplified chart in the front of many of their manuals going back at least to the T-6 series (and CAC in Aus had the same thing in some CA-1 Wirraway manuals circa 1938/39) but the more interesting charts to me are the ones in Tech Order 01-60-3, Structural Repair Instructions for A-36 Series and P-51, 15-June-1945 as it shows the growth of the aircraft through the series starting with the Mustang 1 where every major assembly has a 73- prefix through the D where there is a mix of 73, 97, 99, 102, and 106 numbers. What is not reflected in these charts however are the 19- (BT-9) and similar numbers that flowed through to the P-51 and other aircraft like B-25 though these do show up in the stock lists (this one is post war so does not show the BC and BT models)
From a T-6 manual
From another manual
From the CAC manual
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m13katyusa2020
Senior Airman
- 472
- Mar 26, 2022
North American P-51B, which was the initial version of P-51D, has public free Drawings on scribd, and the drawing documents came from an account that promotes sale for a trader,not any book. That's fantastic!
The trader had many historical electronic documents, and uploaded P-51B drawings on scribd for download, to sell his other documents.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/sho...tation-Photos-in-the-Flight-Magazine-Archives
Note: Drawing 435-442 of the 522 Drawings were missing.
drawings are in the following 8 pdf attachments:
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m13katyusa2020
Senior Airman
- 472
- Mar 26, 2022
Added: P-51 manuals on public websites sorted out as following files attached on the post:
P-51D POH, P-51H AMM, P-51D IPC, P-51H SRM.
For detailed information on structural build metal materials, refer to Basic Aircraft materials chemical composition, treatment and properties free books and manuals thread.
For P-51 available 1600hp-engine, please refer to GE T700-701C Turboshaft Army Repair Manual and IPC - Used on UH-60 Blackhawk: Approved for public release, Distribution is unlimited.
Please download the following 4 pdf attachments:
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fubar57
General
Scribd downloads books without the author's permission.....very illegal
m13katyusa2020
Senior Airman
- 472
- Mar 26, 2022
Many scribd files could not download, and we pay to use Scribd for the things we can download, it's not illegal, I think.
fubar57
General
Did you get the authors permission to download? Just because you pay a site to be able to download does not make it legal unless you have the original authors permission
m13katyusa2020
Senior Airman
- 472
- Mar 26, 2022
Many accounts that share documents on scribd, such as avilogs official account, were the accounts of the original author as an advertisement to promote sale, and I think in this case the downloads're completely legal.
The traders such as avilogs share those documents on scribd just to promote sales for themselves.
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fubar57
General
m13katyusa2020
Senior Airman
- 472
- Mar 26, 2022
Good test, but the drawings had nothing to do with the book, and the drawing documents came from an account that promotes sale for a trader,not the book.
The trader had many historical electronic documents, and uploaded P-51B drawings on scribd for download, to sell his other documents.
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